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Have you used gitlab every day in anger? I don't think you'd feel the same if you have.
I use GitLab daily and feel like it’s a joy to use. What do you dislike?
The GitHub website is slow on Safari
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The way it works in tech today is that there are three groups: - Project managers putting constant pressure on developers to deliver as fast as possible. It doesn't even matter if velocity will be lost in the future, or if the company might lose customers, or even if it breaks the law. - Developers pushing back on things that can backfire and burning political capital and causing constant burnout. And when things DO…
This is shockingly accurate - are you a Hubber? :)
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#263The Github website is slow everywhere. It is truly a piece of shit software both in terms of performance but also UX/UI and everything in between. It's a product of many cooks and their brilliant ideas and KPIs, a social network for devs and code being the most "brilliant" of them all. For day to day dev operations is something so mediocre even Gitlab looks like the golden standard compared to Github. And no, the pro…
> And no, the problem is not "Rails" The problem is they abandoned rails for react. The old SSR GitHub experience was very good. You could review massive PRs on any machine before they made the move.
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What's that, a Github employee? Not really, I'm in an YC startup. But I guess the problem is that every single development position has been converging into this. The only times in my career as a developer where I was 100% happy was when there was no career PM. Sales, customers, end-users, an engineering manager, another manager, a business owner, a random employee, some rando right out the street... All of those wer…
If the PM was also an ex-developer and has both product management and development skills this happens a lot less. When the PM knows the Engineering and complexity and code debt cost of shipping a feature then they can self-triage with that additional information and choose not to send it to the developers or to consult with dev and scale it back to something more managable. Its these professional PM's that have done…
I'm still a big believer in "separation of powers" a la Scrum.
There should be a "Product Owner" that can be anyone really, and in the other side there is a self-managed development team that doesn't include this participant. This gives the team leverage to do things their way and act as a real engineering team.
The reason scrum was killed is because of PMs trying to get themselves into those teams and hijacking the process. Developers hated "PM-based scrum", which is not really scrum at all.
Re: The GitHub website is slow on Safari
#265The Github website is slow everywhere. It is truly a piece of shit software both in terms of performance but also UX/UI and everything in between. It's a product of many cooks and their brilliant ideas and KPIs, a social network for devs and code being the most "brilliant" of them all. For day to day dev operations is something so mediocre even Gitlab looks like the golden standard compared to Github. And no, the pro…
After 10 years of using Phabricator at a previous company I am still shocked how bad GitHub is. This the industry standard?! Too bad Phabricator is maintenance-only now https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phabricator
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> Spotify is also very slow with thousands of placeholder skeletons. Remember that Spotify once had a very fast native player. Are you under the impression that the placeholder skeletons are there and slow because of React? How would a UI written in C++ get the data quicker from the back end to replace the skeleton with?
> Are you under the impression that the placeholder skeletons are there and slow because of React? How would a UI written in C++ get the data quicker from the back end to replace the skeleton with? Regardless of how, the fact remains that the previous implementation of their UI did fetch and render the data from the backend significantly faster than the current React-based one does.
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Various comments and links throughout the discussion of this post indicate that the problem is a mix of the sheer number of nodes and css. It has nothing to do with React or being a React SPA, which it's also not, unless you have some proof otherwise.
React and the most commonly used pattern inherently promotes an way to complex html Node structure and shitty css, especially if stuff like tailwind is used. Now you CAN so it so that is not the case, but tbh i have never seen that in the wild -
Edit: here's a good investigation on a real-enough app https://www.developerway.com/posts/tailwind-vs-linaria-perfo...
Re: The GitHub website is slow on Safari
#269Everything is slower across every single facet of computing. Something is happening. I have a brand new Mac Studio M4 Max with 64gb of ram and every site is still slower than it was on a 2011 Mac Book Pro.