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Re: How I Use Kagi

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They do stand by it: https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integratio...

Removing a previously public list of sources after being pressed on their integration with Yandex gives me a different impression.

I’d assumed that stopping my subscription didn’t achieve anything.

Presumably enough have that it hurts a little.

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Is that some sort of gotcha? By all means, boycott those countries as well. Support from the US certainly is not a free pass.

Follow the logic and boycott the US as well! Now you have zero viable search engines

I have plenty of reservations about the US, but the invasion of the Ukraine is not in the same category as anything the US is up to.

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Let's assume the question has been asked in good faith. Yes, I actually do. And I lose money because of that, significant amounts, because I run a SaaS, where I (as an example) stopped service to all customers from Russia when the full invasion of Ukraine started. So it's not just about not paying, it's about refusing money as well. It's easy to fall into the "whataboutism" trap and do nothing, because one can always…

"I do not accept simply doing nothing." You can also donate to the Ukrainian army directly. Or to amnesty international. Or a tons of other options instead of collective punishment. What is the ordinary russian against the war supposed to do? They don't even have a real option of leaving the country as most other states don't want them because they are russian. In my opinion this helps Putin in his propaganda that th…

Majority of Russian Federation population support occupation of Ukraine - independent polls at the start of open invasion. They would stop only when faced consequences.

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I cancelled my kagi subscription upon seeing this response. I donate to Ukraine to defend itself from Russia. I lost a family member to Russian artillery as well while providing medical aid to civilians. I very much do not want my dollars to fund the very thing that my donations are intended to defend against. I'm going to assume you run a similar policy with Chinese search providers. After seeing Chinese warships of…

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Do you support Oct 7? Do you claim Israel actions are not retaliation? Do you blame Ukraine on fighting occupants?

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let's not pretend that US democracy, flaws included, is in any way comparable to Russia. Please, you know this is a bad faith argument, so let's cut the false equivalence. I dislike the US as much as anyone, but I appreciate that the US is much better than Russia.

What makes you so certain the US is less bad than Russia?

Facts. Do you have no moral ground on WW2 Germany either?

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let's not pretend that US democracy, flaws included, is in any way comparable to Russia. Please, you know this is a bad faith argument, so let's cut the false equivalence. I dislike the US as much as anyone, but I appreciate that the US is much better than Russia.

How many countries have Russia invaded in the last 50 years? And the same for the US? The US invaded more and killed more innocent civilians, so pretending it's any better than Russia is hypocrisy at best.

Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact — Moscow divided Poland with Germany (1939), invaded Finland (1939), occupied Baltic States (1940) — for two years of WW2 Moscow was Germany ally. After WW2 Moscow occupied half of Europe for 45 years, countries become free less than 50 years ago. Moscow made North Korea and China regimes, still supports dictatorship across the world, occupies and annexes neighbors.

Re: How I Use Kagi

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… implication of my comment was: “Which search engine may I use that doesn't indirectly cause harm?”

You're asking a question they aren't. They take issue with the specific spending of money on Yandex. So the question is "which search engine isn't spending money on Yandex"

No, the initial comment did also reference China, which Google and Microsoft are also in bed with... albeit to a much less degree then Apple.

Hence he's on point, as ddg ultimately uses bing under the hood, pretty much all search engines would be out.

A plausible argument could be that you're only using it, not actively giving them money (at least for Google/MS). It'd still call that hypocrisy though, if someone made such an argument.

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"I do not accept simply doing nothing." You can also donate to the Ukrainian army directly. Or to amnesty international. Or a tons of other options instead of collective punishment. What is the ordinary russian against the war supposed to do? They don't even have a real option of leaving the country as most other states don't want them because they are russian. In my opinion this helps Putin in his propaganda that th…

Majority of Russian Federation population support occupation of Ukraine - independent polls at the start of open invasion. They would stop only when faced consequences.

Yes. And donating to the ukrainian army directly has direct consequences for exactly those who volunteer fighting against Ukraine.

Punishing all russians, well, punishes all russian independent of opinion.

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