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Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by skrebbel »

SJC_Hacker wrote: post #256
Ray20 wrote: post #218

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To be fair, it is quite difficult to support a regime where random people are grabbed off the streets and sent to their deaths. Where for expressing oppositional opinions your male relatives will have their door kicked down and will be sent to an assault on enemy position with a 90% mortality rate. And if they survive that - to another one just like it. To support a regime that has no long-term plan and goals for wag…

I'm a big supporter of Ukraine, but let's be honest People aren't being dragged off the streets in Russia. This was briefly true in mid-late 2022 when they flirted with a partial mobilization, but hasn't been true for a while. This is (sadly) actually more true in Ukraine. But there's also some nuance there - they can stop and question but supposedly they technically can't use physical force anymore. What Russia is d…

I think GP is talking about Ukraine, not Russia. (And also I think GP might be astroturfing, but not sure)

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

submeta wrote: post #142
wiseowise wrote: post #138

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> It’s a proxy war fought by the US and it‘s vassals (aka allies) and Russia. That’s the spirit, comrade. Remember! When it’s decadent West/NATO, they’re vassals. When it is glorious BRICS, they’re allies. Don’t mix them up! Good luck!

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> Look at how Trump talks about annexing Greenland. He speaks out what other US politicians have been hiding behind diplomatic wording.

Hardly. He is very much not a normal US politician, and not just because he says what others were thinking. No, he's abnormal because he thinks what nobody else was thinking.

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by bluGill »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #66

I run a small home lab, about 30 services One day I decided to change my main disk and used the opportunity to rebuild everything from scratch and from backups. I was up in about an hour. And then I spent a week fixing this and that, ah yes I changed that too and, crap, I cannot remember why this thingie is set up this way. And some more. This is a one-man lab, with simple services, all on docker. I also work in IT.…

In the 1990s mainframes got so stable and redundant that some were not rebooted in over a decade - they could even upgrade the kernel without rebooting. Then one company had a power failure andthe backup generators failed. When the power came back it was months before they figured out everything it was doing and then how to start that service where the guy who started it originally quit years ago.

most companies started rebooting the mainframe every six months to ensure they could restart it.

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by nchmy »

simonw wrote: post #195
hu3 wrote: post #102

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This is why documenting is so crucial. Even on a software architecture level. A few months from now, I'd love to have written down decisions for my current project: - Why did I decided to use Kysely over Drizzle, Knex, Prisma, TypeORM or other ORM/SQL tool? - How am I going to do migrations? - Why am I using one of Deno/Bun over sticking to nodejs? - Why did I structure the project as a directory per feature over con…

I use GitHub Issues for this. It works so well - any time I make a decision I drop a comment on the relevant issue (often formatted as "Decision: ..."). Now they are archived, searchable, accessible via API and easy to navigate to from my source code because my commits all reference the issue number that relates to the change.

Til Github deletes your account randomly! Happened to a friend of mine recently, and he didn't get any explanation or recourse.

Of course, you have a relatively high profile, so could probably avoid it/get it reversed.

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Post by [deleted] »

725686 wrote: post #225
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #206

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Short version: Possibly the worst thing to be raided for: distribution of CSAM. Apparently based purely on the 'evidence' of my IP address being on some list - that's the only explanation I ever got. Funny thing is, they did so little background research they didn't even know to expect kids in the house when they raided at 6:30am. It still triggers me. This was in August 2022. I wrote pages and pages of my memories a…

In the USA? Where you can be sued if someone slips on your sidewalk? Can't you sue the gvmt?

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Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by libertine »

sjw987 wrote: post #250
libertine wrote: post #226

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If you think Europe is the biggest loser, you need to dig a bit deeper on the state of Russia... I might be wrong, but there's no recovery from this blunder for many, many years - if it manages to stay a Federation, that's yet to be seen, but my guess is China will take a chunk out of Russia eventually. Remember Russia in 3 years had: - 1 Military coup; - Lost 50% of the Black Sea Fleet and it's now unusable; - 1.000…

Europe's entire future is on the line right now. Forget many years.. Higher energy prices, and increased defence spending (from a low starting point) to meet the new US governments requirements are exacerbating the cost of living crisis continent wide. Europe already wasn't innovating, and is now losing the small amount of industry it does have, to energy prices, to China's entry into EV production, and EU regulation…

> Higher energy prices, and increased defence spending

Energy prices are going down, and have been going down consistently ( https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/crude-oil ) and the new US Admin wants them even lower, and they're not alone. So that's settled. Defense spending will also be met with investment, jobs, etc.

But if you think Europe is having it bad in terms of using taxpayers money to fund wars... what do you think is happening to Russian taxpayers money, with a much smaller economy?

> The cost of living crisis, coupled with "AI" (LLM) is hollowing out an already pretty hollow service economy across Europe, and is creating disillusionment which is causing Europeans to shift to either extreme side of the political spectrum.

Inflation is affecting everyone. Not Europe in any particular way.

Again, if you think that's bad for Europe, you look at Russia is being completely destroyed with inflation. I don't even think they're reporting the fake numbers of how bad things are, every quarter they prohibit more data from coming out...

> On top of this, the demographic crisis, while not made worse by tons of dead men sent off to war and exodus, is still affecting Europe and the only reason it isn't notable to many people is due to immigration filling the gaps.

Again, if you think that's a problem in Europe... how does Russia compare with qualified people leaving, 1.000.000 young men casualties, low birth rates, aging population? Europe isn't speedrunning its demographic collapse like Russia is.

> As much as Russia might lose from this war, they'll probably rebuild their army to a higher degree than European forces are right now.

So, to sum it up, you highlighted a few points that are by many orders of magnitude worse in Russia. Even counting energy, since Ukraine has been taking out distribution and refining capacity (and my guess is that it will get worse) - somehow you still think Europe is in a worse shape and position.

And a lot of your claims don't make much logical sense: "Europe is in bad shape, they can't even properly help Ukraine", in a context of Russia with 1.000.000+ casualties, max military production capacity, using North Korean Army help, and failing to make any meaningful gains at heavy costs...

I'm not even stating the fact that Russia will inevitably have to surrender that territory back to Ukraine, in the future anyway, because no country will ever recognize their occupied territory as part of Russia.

So to sum up your "Europe is unable, and Russia is giving their max" scope doesn't help your case at all, just shows that Russia has massive unrecoverable problems, even trying with everything they have...

You ended up supporting what I said. Europe is OK, while Russia can collapse at any moment - that's being on the line.

Just to bring you back to reality: no European country had part of their military going on a straight line to its capital to take down the government, and that happened to Russia around 2 years ago - that's not a good sign.

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Post by znpy »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #244
znpy wrote: post #237

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> This is why I like docker, my understanding is that docker would not have helped in that scenario

it really depends on the scenario but if the application was dockerized and they had an image, it would be just starting it again, somewhere else. Possibly with the same network settings if the licensing check was based on that. But of course it can easily go south, though testing the recovery of a container based off an image and mounted volume is simple and quickly shows you if it works or not. But of course it may…

> it really depends on the scenario

yeah and that scenario was clear:

> Turns out some of the software running on it had some weird licensing checks tied to the hardware so it refused to start on the new server.

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by 15155 »

andrelaszlo wrote: post #79
WhyNotHugo wrote: post #70

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Modern IT practices don’t really contemplate disaster recovery. Even organisations with strict backup procedures seldom test recovery (most never at all). Everything is quickly strapped together due to teams being understaffed. Preparing infrastructure in a way such that it can easily be recreated is easily twice the effort as “just” setting it up the usual way.

Just the other day one of my clients had a production critical server failing and we started restoring it from backups. Turns out some of the software running on it had some weird licensing checks tied to the hardware so it refused to start on the new server. It turns out that the company that made this important piece of software doesn't even exist anymore.

> Turns out some of the software running on it had some weird licensing checks tied to the hardware so it refused to start on the new server.

This is around the time when you call that one guy on your team that can reverse engineer and patch out the license check.

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by amelius »

ajross wrote: post #196
amelius wrote: post #56

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I mean Putin will spin everything as "the West did it" anyway, so it really does not matter who pushes that button. I also seriously wonder why we don't have US/NATO air forces over Ukraine for this reason.

Because footage of a downed F-22 and it's captive pilot would be an unspeakable PR disaster relative to the comparatively mild military benefit. Wars aren't, and really never have been, won by blowing stuff up.

USAF has unmanned fighter jets, if that's what you are worried about.

> Wars aren't, and really never have been, won by blowing stuff up.

That's a huge simplification. Blowing stuff up in a strategic way can certainly help win a war.

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

bluGill wrote: post #263
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #66

I run a small home lab, about 30 services One day I decided to change my main disk and used the opportunity to rebuild everything from scratch and from backups. I was up in about an hour. And then I spent a week fixing this and that, ah yes I changed that too and, crap, I cannot remember why this thingie is set up this way. And some more. This is a one-man lab, with simple services, all on docker. I also work in IT.…

In the 1990s mainframes got so stable and redundant that some were not rebooted in over a decade - they could even upgrade the kernel without rebooting. Then one company had a power failure andthe backup generators failed. When the power came back it was months before they figured out everything it was doing and then how to start that service where the guy who started it originally quit years ago. most companies star…

I was very supportive of the infrastructure IT team when they moved their datacenter. I also had popcorn when watching the switch being figuratively flipped on.

It went surprisingly well despite having stayed 15 years in the old DC without rebooting. They were super scared of exactly the case you described but except for some minor issues (and a lot of cussing) it was OK.

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