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I am seriously quoting the home assistant docs that tell me I need to involve Google if I want to test my own Matter device, yes. Are you saying the home assistant docs are wrong? Please, elaborate.
You need to involve Google if you want to test your own Matter device on Android , which is an OS made by Google. How does that say anything about Matter itself?
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I am seriously quoting the home assistant docs that tell me I need to involve Google if I want to test my own Matter device, yes. Are you saying the home assistant docs are wrong? Please, elaborate.
I think you're seriously being so obtuse about the issue that it calls into question whether you're being honest about your belief with issues with Matter. Zigbee had the same requirements for branding, but they were small enough for Chinese makers to ignore and no big companies cared enough enforce. ZWave is generally considered more reliable and they actually enforced their requirements. I do not want another crapp…
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Home Assistant "just works". Yes it has a ton of knobs, but in the 3 years I've been running it, it's had no issues. Certain manufacturer devices being flaky, yes, but as a platform, it's been rock solid. I've not touched its config in over a year and everything works as it should.
Yes it just works, but it's soooo difficult, here's my annoyances: 00. Installation method - you don't flash ISO into your thumb drive, no you boot ubuntu from usb drive, THEN download ISO and THEN flash your boot drive. This caught so many people. RTFM of course but FM should just say this in huge letters - BOOT UBUNTU FROM USB FIRST. 0. Host method - you either run this in docker and don't get like half features (a…
Integrations are running under control of Home Assistant, while addons are separate applications, running under control of the OS. With HAOS they have that control as they are delivering the OS. They are simply lacking the manpower and experience to deliver a smooth control of external applications for every OS.
> 2. Root - I've succumbed to running HAOS and now I have no idea how to get root remote root access.
Yes, that is a pretty big flaw. They are trying to make it a simple as possible, they are probably flooded with complaints and issues from too many people with barely enough knowledge. But this whole setup they maintain with HAOS is really annoying. Though, there is documentation[1] for this.
> 5. Disorienting UI - whenever I wanna reboot something I'm pissed off. Whenever I wanna find integration or add-on - I'm pissed off. Why there's media and to-do list? Why do I have to enable professional mode to unlock some menu's?
They are doing too much, want to serve everything to anyone. Really annoying, but I guess the loud voices kinda demand this one-fits-all-solution. They should really rethink they focus and architecture. Maybe making clear, distinctive apps for specific jobs might be better.
> 6. Bizarre way of doing things - wanna add derivative sensor? Install file editor, find some file, then fight fucking YAML syntax and then maybe reboot or reload or restart.
To be fair, that's really depending on the devices and nowadays often an old solution. They have worked really hard to get rid of YAML for the normal jobs. But at the end of the day, HA is a hacky tool in a vibrant, extremely diversified environment. They are doing their best to deliver a unified solution, but it takes time, and sometimes still some hacking. HA has come a long long way, and is changing really hard, and they probably have still many technical debts left from a decade ago. Their biggest problem at this point is probably history and complexity. People who are using it for years, which are still knowing the old ways, or encountering old documentation.. And it's hard to get a clear picture with all the things that HA is offer and doing.
[1] https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/operating-system/d...
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> Certain manufacturer devices being flaky, yes, but as a platform This makes me a little weary of your comment. I don't think I'd really care if my lights not working was due to a "manufacturer being flaky" if they worked yesterday, but don't today. Are you talking about devices being flaky on first setup (which sucks, but is understandable), or are you talking about them being flaky after an update?
It's the devices that is flaky. Some of the shitty bulbs I got don't always turn on in one command but that was true via their own app too. Basically shitty devices aren't magically better via home assistant.
I feel like half the griping about HA is people realizing all the hardware errata and physical reality bullshit embedded developers have to paper over on a daily basis.
E.g. no, you can't just read contact sensors without debouncing
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You need to involve Google if you want to test your own Matter device on Android , which is an OS made by Google. How does that say anything about Matter itself?
Well how else am I going to provision my matter device? Buy an iphone?
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Home Assistant "just works". Yes it has a ton of knobs, but in the 3 years I've been running it, it's had no issues. Certain manufacturer devices being flaky, yes, but as a platform, it's been rock solid. I've not touched its config in over a year and everything works as it should.
Yes it just works, but it's soooo difficult, here's my annoyances: 00. Installation method - you don't flash ISO into your thumb drive, no you boot ubuntu from usb drive, THEN download ISO and THEN flash your boot drive. This caught so many people. RTFM of course but FM should just say this in huge letters - BOOT UBUNTU FROM USB FIRST. 0. Host method - you either run this in docker and don't get like half features (a…
2. Ssh and vscode addon?
6. Been using it for 2 years and have yet to touch yaml.
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Curious, do you do HA updates automatically, manually regularly, or “manually once a year or so”?
Manual, would do it once a month or so. Hasn't broken ever since I have been running HA. I run the full Haas OS btw.
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You need to involve Google if you want to test your own Matter device on Android , which is an OS made by Google. How does that say anything about Matter itself?
Well how else am I going to provision my matter device? Buy an iphone?
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Well how else am I going to provision my matter device? Buy an iphone?
There is a guide here on how to provision without a smartphone: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/commissioning-matter-d...
> This process is a bit more involved but is also pretty straightforward and easy to do in most setups, though it is not officially supported and is intended for developer use.
I'll stick with my zigbee flow of "press 2 buttons"
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So you dropped a dying ecosystem for a very dead and buried underground one? Bold move.
Is there some reason you felt compelled to comment on this, using that tone? Because it was completely uncalled for