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Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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Why are big media outlets suddenly sharing this guys ideas?

Wild guess. As far as I can tell this was the first such article: https://theconversation.com/friday-essay-trumps-reign-fits-c... I posted it here, but it didn't attract much interest here or elsewhere from what I can tell. But as you can see it had interesting things to say. Those who make money from peddling words saw an opportunity, re-wrote and posted it as their own work.

It's grubby process in some ways, but looking at it holistically, it's not a bad outcome. The meme has gotten the interest I think deserved, even it's creator didn't.

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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post #109
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the Vice President of the US is a devotee. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:JD_Vance/Archive_1#%E2%80... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:JD_Vance/Archive_2#Politi...

Can you post direct links to actual references, rather than Wikipedia talk pages?

The original version of this article has references, including some to Vance's fascination with Yarvin: https://theconversation.com/friday-essay-trumps-reign-fits-c...

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/red-pill-pr...

Another dropout; never finished his PhD:

"At 15, Yarvin entered college as part of Johns Hopkins' longitudinal Study of Mathematically Precocious Youth. A year later, he transferred to Brown University in Rhode Island as a legacy admission to the Ivy League liberal arts college, where his parents had met in the mid-'60s. After graduating, it was on to a computer science Ph.D. program at Berkeley. He dropped out after a year and a half to take a tech job at the height of the go-go '90s dot-com era."

Without the Silicon Valley and the internet, he and his theories have no life. Neither can stand on its own without computers.

He cannot turn off the computer. Without the computer, he becomes irrelevant.

Not suprising if he provides entertainment for so-called "tech" company investors and employees.

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a perfectly reasonable request, but I didn't have them. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/15/jd-vance-5... is one, I guess. Aha, https://unherd.com/2024/11/j-d-vance-de-facto-prince-of-the-... says, > Vance has described himself as a “reactionary” at war with the “regime”. He drops casual references to his personal friend Curtis Yarvin, and he’s fond of delivering thunderous pronouncements like “t…

Yarvin stated in an interview that he barely knows Vance - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcSil8NeQq8&ab_channel=TheIn...

And Trump said he knew nothing about project 2025 before the election. Yarvin has been close to Thiel for many years, is his advisor in some capacity, has invested in Yarvins companies, likely even friends. Vance worked for Thiel and his political career was bankrolled by Thiel. And you believe they barely know each other?

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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For what it's worth his writing is very thought provoking and novel. I'd recommend anyone bored of mainstream groupthink take a look at it.

It's been difficult since ~2020 to truly read pieces that are heterodox. Everyone who was painting outside the lines was effectively erased from the polite society of the online squares. Yarvis doesn't even touch many of the existing third rails today.

Yes. It's quite bad, but even if you're a die-hard left liberal, or libertarian or whatever, Yarvin's ideas are a great exercise. He points out all sorts of failure modes in Democratic society that don't seem to get talked about by other political theorists. For example, the way in which power is so widely distributed means that anyone who manages to come to a powerful position is strongly incentivized to spend all their efforts simply maintaining their power lest they quickly get removed and replaced by someone more power hungry. This just seems like a feature of a representative democracy and one, that in order avoid, we would need to think very hard about.

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a filter for this: https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=unqualified-reservati... You can also use https://hn.algolia.com to find it.

This one is interesting: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49533 . Submitted by pg!

Many tech billionaires are buying his shit.

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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Growing up, one of my criticisms of Orson Scott Card's "Enderverse" was how unrealistic it seemed that children could literally rise to power simply through posting theories and arguments on the internet. How wrong I was.

It should be studied how large (world scale) populations can flip with just the right amount of social struggle, populists, wealthy owners leveraging said populists, and new found gurus serving as grandiose ideal sources for the last two groups.

The effectiveness of propaganda has been known for a long time. The advertising industry is built on the foundations laid by Edward Bernays a century ago, who applied the same psychological manipulation tactics of propaganda to advertising, which turned it into the trillion dollar meta-industry we know today. The same technology built for advertising is used for any other kind of psyop. Considering most people in industrialized nations carry a personal device with them at all times that can feed them content engineered to be as addicting as possible, with an agenda to influence their thoughts and behavior, it shouldn't be surprising that we're seeing sociopolitical instability in many countries, and megalomaniacs taking advantage of this opportunity to grasp power, inflate their wealth, and establish autocracies.

This playbook was described well by an ex-KGB agent who specialized in propaganda in this 1984 interview[1]. I suggest watching the full interview. The timeline of what we're seeing today aligns well with the surge of adtech, social media, and smartphones. A nation can be fully destabilized in the span of a generation, and modern tools make this much easier and cheaper than Yuri Bezmenov could have predicted.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr5sTGxMUdo

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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Why is this post being flagged?

Yeah it’s annoying isn’t it.

It’s pertinent to YC, and topical because if the current US administration.

The guy’s ideas are poison, but also act as a kind of Rosetta Stone for interpreting nonsense conclusions sometimes presented by tech leaders, politicians etc.

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