I’m a little concerned by the number of people here who seem to think it is totally normal to need to wipe a lot after going to the toilet. Is that a feature of the American diet?
Lucky you. Given the sprayer is almost universal all over much of Asia, the middle east, and apparenrtly Finland I'd say must be common for many people not to have non-messy poo 100% of the time.
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#262Earlier quoted context omitted.
Those hand sprayer versions are bad to use and unhygienic too, because fecal matter gets sprayed beyond the toilet bowl. I know why Arabic countries prefer hand sprayer versions: istinja practices of Islam.
this is also the most common thing in india fwiw so it’s not all religious.
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#263Americans don’t understand this because our national tv ads are for toilet paper. There’s even a social contention built in about the “quality of tp”. Let me tell you, if you spray your asshole first, the quality of the tp does not really matter.
>if you spray your asshole first, the quality of the tp does not really matter. Great, go rub a TP that feels like sand paper on your anus even to dry it off then. See how it goes. (Quality of TP still matters, even for usage as minor wipes/tissue paper etc)
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#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
Those hand sprayer versions are bad to use and unhygienic too, because fecal matter gets sprayed beyond the toilet bowl. I know why Arabic countries prefer hand sprayer versions: istinja practices of Islam.
No concern really in my experience. This point is often raised by the uninitiated.
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They're pretty common in Russia, too. In Muslim countries they're basically everywhere. When you're used to them it's very annoying to end up in a country that doesn't have them. Especially the US, which in addition has strange toilets that fill up with a lot of water during normal operation and bathroom stall privacy that begins 30cm above the ground.
Agreed. USA public restrooms are the worst as are USA public restroom manners.
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#267Earlier quoted context omitted.
Those hand sprayer versions are bad to use and unhygienic too, because fecal matter gets sprayed beyond the toilet bowl. I know why Arabic countries prefer hand sprayer versions: istinja practices of Islam.
Not with the one I bought at Home Depot. Two valves: one with a longish lever at the bottom of the tank, one in the sprayer, one at the wand. Use the first lever as high-precision pressure control, the one at the wand as a quick cutoff or not at all. Adjust pressure to a 3-4 inch high fountain. No overspray. Angle the flow forward, to minimize drip-back onto the sprayer head.
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#268In almost all of SE Asia, especially Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, all of the toilets come with a hand-held sprayer. They also had this in the Doha airport and I'm not sure how common this style is outside of SE Asia but I'm guessing it's common. Japanese style bidets are very common in Korean households as well and I'm sure its easily a billion dollar business. It is nice but the functionality is quite difficult for…
computer vision will solve this and direct the waterjet in yer bullseye. :D ai...ai everywhere.
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#269One caveat: Toto toilets waste stupid amounts of power. With the heater off , I measure 40-50W at idle across multiple different models. With a heated seat that’s active or with the water heater on, it’s much higher. (A lot of Toto models have a small tank that is kept hot — only the higher end models have an on-demand flow tankless heater.)
Just tested this out and mine uses 6w at idle. This is with the seat heater and water heater turned on - but given that it's June there probably isn't much heating needed to bring them up to comfortable temps. For reference here is the model I have. I don’t remember the exact price, but I think it was a fairly mid-range model that cost less than ¥200,000 ($2,000) at the time. https://search.toto.jp/tr/D08911R_201603.…
I just pulled the data from a US model Neorest, and I see a bit over 600Wh in a day. So better than 40W, but not amazing. It does drop below 1W for short periods, so it’s not actually the electronics wasting power at idle.
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> it’s incomprehensible that in other countries people just wipe and…hope for the best. Nowadays many people use wet wipes. Probably less environmentally friendly, but they solve the same problem.
Less environmentally friendly and greatly more damaging to the infrastructure. Spain is even looking to introduce legislation to reduce/remove their use[0]. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/may/28/spain-to...
I used to use wet wipes and flushed them, now I have a bidet and have only ever used wet wipes when traveling, where, ironically, Spain’s issues with basic things like flushing toilet paper, make disposing/not flushing wet wipes easy because many bathrooms have a lidded trash can next to the toilet/in the stall.
Ironically, their bigger issues produce a solution to a different, bigger problem.
Note: Yes, I’m aware it’s not everywhere in Spain or only Spain, but I am curious to hear where everywhere everyone has encountered having to put their toilet paper on a trash can instead of flushing.