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Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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Post by johnisgood »

twixfel wrote: post #260
johnisgood wrote: post #257

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"defend Europe"?

Yes. Defend Europe. There's a war in Ukraine, not sure if you've heard. Russia invaded Ukraine and is seeking to annex it. Hope that helps.

Then you meant to say Ukraine, not Europe. It is not like Russia is going to attempt to conquer Europe, is it? Additionally, there are historical reasons for what is going on between Russia and Ukraine. I am sure you have heard of it, or perhaps have a distorted view of it. It is between Ukraine and Russia. Ukraine is not even part of EU. The EU has nothing to worry about. We might though.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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Post by butlike »

xhkkffbf wrote: post #250
razakel wrote: post #243

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I'd prefer to deal with the mafia than Rupert fucking Murdoch.

This is kind of a cute thing that wanna-be-rebels may enjoy trying on, much like some hipster who buys a leather jacket. But you don't. Believe me. You don't. But for fun, go pay for a legit ticket to watch a movie like "The Godfather" or "The Irishman." Count the dead bodies.

tbf, you only get hit (punched) if you don't pay back, and you only end up dead if you don't take the hint from the punch.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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Post by twixfel »

johnisgood wrote: post #261
twixfel wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Defend Europe. There's a war in Ukraine, not sure if you've heard. Russia invaded Ukraine and is seeking to annex it. Hope that helps.

Then you meant to say Ukraine, not Europe. It is not like Russia is going to attempt to conquer Europe, is it? Additionally, there are historical reasons for what is going on between Russia and Ukraine. I am sure you have heard of it, or perhaps have a distorted view of it. It is between Ukraine and Russia. Ukraine is not even part of EU. The EU has nothing to worry about. We might though.

No, not at all. I meant to say Europe. The attack on Ukraine is an attack on Europe. I meant exactly what I said.

> Additionally, there are historical reasons for what is going on between Russia and Ukraine

And there are historical reasons why Europe cares about what is going on between Russia and Ukraine.

Sorry but not only Russia gets to have "historical reasons" and "interests". We all do. Europe does too. Sorry if that upsets you and think Russia is the main character.

And sadly Russia's attacks on Europe are not limited to Ukraine. For example they have been doing chemical attacks in the UK before the full scale invasion of Ukraine.

> It is not like Russia is going to attempt to conquer Europe, is it?

It doesn't have to in order to be a threat to Europe. That's the thing about power.

> We might though

Who's "we"?

What's sad is how cucked the Hungarians are. Is there a more tragic country? Backed the wrong horse 1914-18, then again 39-45, then again in the cold war, and now again during the Russian invasion of Ukraine. What a tragic place. Literally always on the wrong side of history. I guess if there was ever any doubt that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is wrong, it's that Hungary supports said invasion. Hey, but it also means it will fail, because everything Hungary seems to touch turns to shit :)

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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Post by [deleted] »

twixfel wrote: post #263
johnisgood wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then you meant to say Ukraine, not Europe. It is not like Russia is going to attempt to conquer Europe, is it? Additionally, there are historical reasons for what is going on between Russia and Ukraine. I am sure you have heard of it, or perhaps have a distorted view of it. It is between Ukraine and Russia. Ukraine is not even part of EU. The EU has nothing to worry about. We might though.

No, not at all. I meant to say Europe. The attack on Ukraine is an attack on Europe. I meant exactly what I said. > Additionally, there are historical reasons for what is going on between Russia and Ukraine And there are historical reasons why Europe cares about what is going on between Russia and Ukraine. Sorry but not only Russia gets to have "historical reasons" and "interests". We all do. Europe does too. Sorry i…

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Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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Post by gardenhedge »

arielcostas wrote: post #241
ipaddr wrote: post #187

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Why would anyone use a cloudflare js cdn for anything but a toy site? Those are bad decisions by developers.

They are, but that doesn't mean it's their fault when websites fail because LaLiga decided to block an entire ISP. That's pure victim blaming. "Oh, what did you expect when you rely on a third party and another company wields the power of blocking anything without a specific court order?"

Huh? It is their fault though. They chose to rely on a third party service that they don't own and had no mitigation for when it failed.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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Post by 77pt77 »

__loam wrote: post #185
77pt77 wrote: post #51

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Twitter has like 3 times the users of threads and bluesky has a tenth of threads. It's a geometric progression (power law) and it almost always devolves into that.

You asked if there was something remotely comparable and there is.

Three times less does not fit that.

30 times less neither.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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Post by johnisgood »

twixfel wrote: post #263
johnisgood wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then you meant to say Ukraine, not Europe. It is not like Russia is going to attempt to conquer Europe, is it? Additionally, there are historical reasons for what is going on between Russia and Ukraine. I am sure you have heard of it, or perhaps have a distorted view of it. It is between Ukraine and Russia. Ukraine is not even part of EU. The EU has nothing to worry about. We might though.

No, not at all. I meant to say Europe. The attack on Ukraine is an attack on Europe. I meant exactly what I said. > Additionally, there are historical reasons for what is going on between Russia and Ukraine And there are historical reasons why Europe cares about what is going on between Russia and Ukraine. Sorry but not only Russia gets to have "historical reasons" and "interests". We all do. Europe does too. Sorry i…

> how cucked the Hungarians are

This statement is an unnecessary, and offensive generalization. Many Hungarians do not agree with Orbán at all. Read more about "Magyar Péter".

> it's that Hungary supports said invasion.

It does not.

> Hey, but it also means it will fail, because everything Hungary seems to touch turns to shit :)

So you have nothing to worry about, then. Why even bother crying about Hungary if you genuinely believe this? I highly doubt you genuinely believe it, otherwise you would not have been crying about it. :) And if you do not believe it, then it is just yet another insult coming from you. Not surprised though, based on your comments. You seem to have made this account only to argue politics and shill your own master. We are on a tech forum, but God speed.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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Post by lnxg33k1 »

lifestyleguru wrote: post #249
hirako2000 wrote: post #56

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It's designed for this purpose. Rome was organizing those games to thrill the romans, it worked splendid. When political concerns gets on the rise, you pump the show. It works better than your typical propaganda as players become heroes, managers and clubs make great money. Distributors get their cut. The machine is well oiled with solid monetary incentives. Football (and other sports watching): cheap but deep rooted…

If only Italians treated this seriously their economy, job market, and demography. Ooops, it's too late. Enjoy your bloody football.

These are just so much useless phrases, don't italian treat their job market seriously? We have a referendum as soon as next month to remove laws introduced by neoliberals few years ago that removed job safety and made everyone expendables, among other things.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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Post by twixfel »

johnisgood wrote: post #267
twixfel wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, not at all. I meant to say Europe. The attack on Ukraine is an attack on Europe. I meant exactly what I said. > Additionally, there are historical reasons for what is going on between Russia and Ukraine And there are historical reasons why Europe cares about what is going on between Russia and Ukraine. Sorry but not only Russia gets to have "historical reasons" and "interests". We all do. Europe does too. Sorry i…

> how cucked the Hungarians are This statement is an unnecessary, and offensive generalization. Many Hungarians do not agree with Orbán at all. Read more about "Magyar Péter". > it's that Hungary supports said invasion. It does not. > Hey, but it also means it will fail, because everything Hungary seems to touch turns to shit :) So you have nothing to worry about, then. Why even bother crying about Hungary if you gen…

You are trolling anyway and throwing standard fascist claims around about shilling and masters, whilst of course advocating for total non-intervention in Ukraine and letting Russia rape the country at its leisure. Also engaging since the beginning in bad faith by arguing no points, but just picking out individual words that you disagree with. You are a troll, but though I'm not sure you're aware of it, which is surely much sadder.

Also: It's not a tech forum, there's lots of non-tech content here.

Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives

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Post by hirako2000 »

gardenhedge wrote: post #265
arielcostas wrote: post #241

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They are, but that doesn't mean it's their fault when websites fail because LaLiga decided to block an entire ISP. That's pure victim blaming. "Oh, what did you expect when you rely on a third party and another company wields the power of blocking anything without a specific court order?"

Huh? It is their fault though. They chose to rely on a third party service that they don't own and had no mitigation for when it failed.

Sure using a different domain has come to being bad practice for security and performance reasons, nonetheless fetching libs from CDNs including cloudflare remains prevalent. Even if they would make a move that is slower than takedowns.
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