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NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Also, NCSA was started with NSF funds and the put out the first web browse. And now the guy behind that is supporting Trump. Really pulling up the ladder.

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I would guess he means Marc Andreesen.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Not trying to argue, though blame is deserved for those who voted for Trump this time around. I'm not saying that out of anger, that's just the nature of democracy and that the corollary of a voting public being able to choose their leaders means they're responsible when they make bad choices. That, in turn should trigger national debates, reflection, and reform hopefully, else the US will continue to head down an ev…

I think it's worthwhile to consider that what you said here: > Not trying to argue, though blame is deserved for those who voted for Trump this time around. > I'm not saying that out of anger, that's just the nature of democracy and that the corollary of a voting public being able to choose their leaders means they're responsible when they make bad choices. That, in turn should trigger national debates, reflection, a…

This isn't a right or left issue, and I'm not even an American. I have no political affiliation here except seeing a country I've long admired facing a profound challenge. This is about significant portions of American voters turning away from established institutions—the scientific community, professional civil service, and constitutional checks and balances that have been foundational to American strength.

I could maybe understand why people voted for the anti-establishment candidate the first time around. Legitimate frustrations exist with a system many felt wasn't working for them. But the second time around, with clear evidence of the consequences, is not defensible and shouldn't be excused.

This is a form of reactionary populism and it's deeply dangerous for the US's power, prosperity, and political freedoms. Ask Argentinians what Peronism, as another form of anti-establishment populism, did for them. There are countless other examples to learn from too.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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The NSF budget is ~$10billion. That's about half of NASA's, 1.2% of the DoD's, 0.5% of the discretionary budget ($1.7 trillion). Why is this the focus of the admin? Science is one of the few things the US is doing well.

A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money. More seriously, the NSF isn't the focus of the admin. They're going through every federal agency making cuts, not singling out this one in particular.

> They're going through every federal agency making cuts, not singling out this one in particular.

That's BS. They are already bragging about raising defense spending.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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I have been in and out of the academic world my entire career. I have worked as a programmer/engineer for two universities and a national lab, and worked at a startup founded by some professors. There is huge uncertainty with the people whom I have worked with, nobody seems to be sure what is going to happen, but it feels like it wont be good. Hiring freezes, international graduate students receiving emails to self d…

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If that's how you're using it, then you're doing it wrong, because you're supposed to be supervising the drive the entire time. It's not self-driving if you're supervising. And you're required to supervise because... they're not confident it can actually self-drive.

where did i say i wasn't supervising? Are you saying the self-summon is the unsupervised part? Cause i can flip that logic on it's head and say, if they weren't confident that it can summon to me, why would they implement the feature?

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So if it crashes, then it's Tesla's fault and they pay? Or do you pay?

If it crashes, it's my fault. At every point i'm supervising. Except in self summon, and if it side swipes the car on the way out, it's obviously still my fault. That's just never happened to me. Where in my sentence did i say I wasn't fully in control of the situation? I just say i very, very rarely even have to disengage in situations. On the very rare occassion that i do disengage, it's not really that the car is…

> For all intents and purposes, it's self driving.

Except that you're responsible for its faults and errors, because you are the one driving.

"Self driving" means I can be drunk, or I can put a kid in it, or an elderly person. That's what that word means: the car drives itself.

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Trump said yesterday he wants to raise taxes on people earning over $2.5MM[1] People on the left are going to be caught totally flat-footed if they don't pull their head out of their bubble. Trump is a populist president. He was elected by working class individuals and so far he has shown every intent of following through for them. People on the left don't recognize it because they don't recognize the tools that righ…

Seeing as the majority of words coming out of Trump are hyperbole or just straight up lies.. well believe it when it’s written into law.

Not sure why you're downvoted. It's part of Trumps schtick. He says contradicting ideas, and since everyone knows he lies, people pick the idea they want to believe. Pretty wild actually.

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Social security is entirely self funded, has a large surplus in the form of the SS Trust Fund (that’s being spent down) and has contributed $0 to the deficit or debt. You should really learn the basic facts about something like that if you’re going to support cuts to the program.

The SS Trust Fund is numbers on a spreadsheet. It doesn't matter. It's gone and spent. The question is about real actual resource distribution. SS is drawing more resources from young people than it is giving back. That's an actual problem, no matter how many tabs you add to your excel spreadsheet.

This post is nonsensical.

> The SS Trust Fund is numbers on a spreadsheet. It doesn't matter.

"Numbers on a spreadsheet" is meaningless, you just described functionally all of accounting for the entire economy, and if that's a reason it "doesn't matter" then the debt also "doesn't matter" because it's also just numbers on a spreadsheet. What do you think nearly all money is?

> It's gone and spent.

Simply, factually wrong. If so, then so's your 401k. And all the money in your bank account.

> The question is about real actual resource distribution. SS is drawing more resources from young people than it is giving back. That's an actual problem, no matter how many tabs you add to your excel spreadsheet.

You're wrong about Social Security (and medicare, for that matter) contributing to the budget deficit, so you're trying to change the topic to "is social security's funding fair?"

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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I think it's worthwhile to consider that what you said here: > Not trying to argue, though blame is deserved for those who voted for Trump this time around. > I'm not saying that out of anger, that's just the nature of democracy and that the corollary of a voting public being able to choose their leaders means they're responsible when they make bad choices. That, in turn should trigger national debates, reflection, a…

This isn't a right or left issue, and I'm not even an American. I have no political affiliation here except seeing a country I've long admired facing a profound challenge. This is about significant portions of American voters turning away from established institutions—the scientific community, professional civil service, and constitutional checks and balances that have been foundational to American strength. I could…

I am American. Most of the people I know are also American. I'm trying to tell you why lots of my fellow Americans voted this way. aaronbaugher's comment in this thread is also insightful.
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