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Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Post by qeternity »

echelon wrote: post #74
MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They’re often not shot in the US, due to cost differences and tax incentives. I suspect the latter is the real issue, but haven’t looked into it.

That's what this is about. Work for IATSE crew union members has declined precipitously. During the pandemic, there was so much demand for content that the studios spent a lot of money teaching foreign crews how to produce films. They sent a lot of staff to Eastern Europe and Asia to train local crews. Serbia, etc., where the crews are making well below union wages and can work long hours without regulation. Since 20…

> where the crews are making well below union wages and can work long hours without regulation.

This is what is so ridiculous about unions in 2025: there are people in dozens of other tier 2 countries that will work harder than you for less pay.

The solution is not to try to artificially inflate wages.

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Post by nxobject »

d3nj4l wrote: post #168

This makes no sense and people are giving it too much credit. What does “produced” mean? How do you “tariff” a movie? When is the movie crossing the border and who’s doing the valuation, customs check, and so on? There’s literally no substance to this and people are tying themselves into knots to make sense of this.

What does it mean for a movie to cross a border, if the IP ultimately belongs to an American production studio and for all effective purposes its final assembly happens in the US?

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Post by Spooky23 »

echelon wrote: post #189
melenaboija wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think they understand the damage all of this is doing to brand America. Since the first Trump administration, young people in Western Europe have increasingly lost their idealization of the United States. I'm 43 and moved to the US ten years ago and I feel like I'm part of the last generation that still wanted to move here. Highly qualified people I know in Europe no longer even consider coming here.

Everyone in this thread is reading surface level media summaries. This is 1000% pro-union. IATSE workers have been decimated by the move of productions to Serbia since 2023. LA and Atlanta film productions have all but collapsed since the offshoring of production. Serbian crews work without unions for much cheaper than local IATSE members. This is designed to save IATSE and domestic American production.

Since when does the MAGA crowd give a hoot about unions?

The studios are dying. I go to the movies every week when there are movies. Other than Minecraft, the biggest crowd I’ve seen was the Star Wars re-release.

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Post by ringeryless »

liotier wrote: post #173
mort96 wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MAGA is not a free market fundamentalist movement. The old-school neoconservative Republicans are no longer in charge of the party.

Imagine ten years ago, someone predicting you would miss the neocons...

we actually had books by folks like Naomi Klein back in the 90s that indicated that the petroleum-based forces would subvert international cooperation for the sake of short-term profits. we were informed of the current navelgazing nationalist trend worldwide gaining popularity.

it's completely stupid and shortsighted to birth this monster, of course. we need MORE international cooperation not less to solve the vast environmental and social problems the world faces.

think about why people migrate and war is high on the list, and not addressing the root causes of human migration but merely each nation closing its doors to the world= bad dumb and wrong.

the people are to blame, of course. in one of the wealthiest nations on earth it's not hardship or suffering that drove the common man to vote for Trump, it's schadenfreude for strawmen they were programmed to hate.

Jodorowski's famous art film "holy mountain" shows our current trajectory since 40 plus years and depicts the brainwashing that allows one to dehumanize other human beings.

i am not sure if trump or vance is the antichrist, but they certainly head a religion dedicated to eradicating the values Jesus taught.

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Post by ctxc »

eqvinox wrote: post #250
dagw wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because if someone is obviously trying to contact the emergency services it's probably a good idea to connect them to the emergency services.

You're answering the wrong question. Why would 911 be "obviously trying to contact emergency services"?

Prevailing culture.

A kid these days in most urban parts would tend to say "911 I have an emergency" while roleplaying because we hear it so much in popular culture.

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Post by imcritic »

jdiff wrote: post #140
cpursley wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've read it and am not convinced we need to be ingesting fluoride water. Nor is Europe or most other countries and their dental health is fine. Said another way - brush yo teeth, brush yo GD teeth: https://youtu.be/GlKL_EpnSp8?si=NeKJWKNlcHxtDUYD&t=112

The questions you posed are not questioning fluoride, they're asking what the basic premise even is. If you don't understand that, you are far from the position needed to be evaluating and analyzing the necessity or benefits of it. The Wikipedia page you mentioned reading also points out that it's not only a US thing. Or even a water-only thing.

When I see an argument with a phrase like "basic premise" I know I'm reading some word mambo jambo, otherwise the author would just give their summary of that "basic premise" instead of deadlinking it (refer to something without actually referring it).

You don't have an argument yourself, you just wanted to share that you are pro some position.

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Post by apexalpha »

I don't get it? How many non-US movies does the US even import?

I can't think of any country that the US imports more movies from than it exports?

Even if you believe in tariffs what industry in America does this protect that needs protection?

Of is he gambling on recipritoral tarrifs to 'punish' the liberal Hollywood???? Sounds conspiracy-like but I legit can't think of any other reason this makes sense.

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Post by Justsignedup »

HelloNurse wrote: post #204
DeusExMachina wrote: post #156

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Since it's about movies produced overseas, I don't think the nationality of the actors or the overseas revenue counts. But it probaby counts that it was shot in the UK. The reason why Disney does that is because they get tax breaks from the UK government, which I think it's what Trump is referring to.

There will be exceptions and loopholes for friends, like e.g. for Tesla cars.

This. This is it.

Now Disney will have to bow down and kiss the ring or their us incomes will fail. Make it too expensive to not bow down.

That's how this works. I'll make doing business too painful for you unless you cater to my will. So surrender.

Well......... Let's see if the gambit will pay off.

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Post by Spooky23 »

jasonjayr wrote: post #127
anonu wrote: post #101

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I think thats exactly the point though. There is a perception that "left wing ideals" are represented in art and media and that this must end. This explains the executive order to defund NPR and PBS last week.

But isn't this the "free market" at play? Media with so-called "leftist" themes tend to do well commercially than "rightist" themes, so Hollywood just follows the money?

MAGA are fascist. The heavy base of voter support is from religious zealots.
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