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Re: Bored of It

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Post by kashnote »

shortrounddev2 wrote: post #202
gatinsama wrote: post #49

Counterpoint: I am not bored at all. Hyped as it is, it is important to be here to discuss its uses, misuses and implications. Some if it is fascinating, and other parts are fascinatingly bad. I understand the fatigue with it. But that it is used right (or at all) is a conversation worth having.

I was bored of it after about a day. As an engineer, there's really nothing interesting about LLMs at all to me.

What kind of engineer? As a software engineer, the Cursor Tab feature alone has doubled my development speed.

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Post by spencerflem »

spudlyo wrote: post #157
eimrine wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has been called refusing to use proprietary software. People who use FOSS. Users, not useds.

I've been doing a thought experiment on what it would take to refuse to ingest any non public domain or creative commons licensed content. If one wanted to opt out of commercial entertainment, how hard would that be? This gets complicated pretty quickly, because so much IP is implicitly granted, and poorly labeled.

Hard, imo.

Posts on this forum are not public domain, etc.

Re: Bored of It

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Post by abraxas »

I had those feelings about the crypto mania. The AI craze has at least some justification coming from genuine usefulness.

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Post by eMPee584 »

lurk2 wrote: post #196
mapt wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On that specific quote - I feel like this is offensive on more than one level. The waste of our best minds... sure. Fine. But - "to sell you ads." Marketting has the dubious distinction of being one area of human endeavor where technological advances serve mostly to make your life worse, make your mind less focused, make your wallet more empty. The spherical-cow "ideal" 100% efficient perfect marketing campaign/tacti…

> The spherical-cow "ideal" 100% efficient perfect marketing campaign/tactic literally hypnotizes you into dropping all your money on an arbitrary good or service. It is isomorphic to somebody mugging you. I like the quote and despise advertising of any kind for mostly the same reason, but you could apply this logic to any kind of business and it starts to fall apart. > The spherical-cow "ideal" 100% efficient perfec…

> but you could apply this logic to any kind of business and it starts to fall apart.

Exactly, it all starts to fall apart when common sense is applied - it's just that we've become horribly dependent, many even addicted to the dehumanizing grind of our beloved competition economy..

The immanent rise of autonomous machines is the sudden emergency exit from capitalism we (or rather: some of us) have been rooting for.. IF we can convince the people of this planet that a non-commercial post-scarcity open-access open-source commons economy is a more hopeful trajectory into the long future.. Let's not give up on this one yet.

Re: Bored of It

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Post by mdp2021 »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #218
mdp2021 wrote: post #192

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> will convince anyone Are you sure that would be the poster's attempt. > you're just being He seems to be discussing, to some of us.

>Are you sure that would be the poster's attempt. What do you suspect he is attempting to do?

There is a chance he is just seeing whether discussing brings some benefit - as he likes to say. Which is a good thing. Better than the opposite.

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Post by ElevenLathe »

lurk2 wrote: post #196
mapt wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On that specific quote - I feel like this is offensive on more than one level. The waste of our best minds... sure. Fine. But - "to sell you ads." Marketting has the dubious distinction of being one area of human endeavor where technological advances serve mostly to make your life worse, make your mind less focused, make your wallet more empty. The spherical-cow "ideal" 100% efficient perfect marketing campaign/tacti…

> The spherical-cow "ideal" 100% efficient perfect marketing campaign/tactic literally hypnotizes you into dropping all your money on an arbitrary good or service. It is isomorphic to somebody mugging you. I like the quote and despise advertising of any kind for mostly the same reason, but you could apply this logic to any kind of business and it starts to fall apart. > The spherical-cow "ideal" 100% efficient perfec…

I'm willing to go along with this hypothesis. So first step is to end capitalism, then we can see if we still hate ads?

Re: Bored of It

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Post by anonymars »

spencerflem wrote: post #254
TeMPOraL wrote: post #166

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> I’m tired of that line. I remember first seeing it on “the best minds of our generation being employed to sell you ads”. Making a computer go brrr doesn’t qualify anyone for a “best mind”. It's the other way around. It's not just, or primarily, about run of the mill software devs. It's also about the would-be top mathematicians and physicists and psychologists and others - best minds in various domains, that in a b…

I think the argument is more about whether someone involved in hostile behavior deserves to be called a "best mind" compared to someone worse at math but better at empathy. Fwiw I kinda agree with both of you. Don't really know how to square it

I'd say it's something like "a squandering of potential"

Re: Bored of It

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Post by crazygringo »

I can only imagine the same kind of sentiments were written about...

Electricity. Airplanes. Sailing ships. The cotton gin. The telegraph.

I, for one, am not bored. I continue to be amazed. AI has massively increased my productivity and massively decreased my frustration.

If you're bored, that's a "you" problem. Find other places to hang out if you want to avoid conversation about it.

Re: Bored of It

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Post by brandall10 »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #68
latexr wrote: post #17

> The best minds of my generation I’m tired of that line. I remember first seeing it on “the best minds of our generation being employed to sell you ads”. Making a computer go brrr doesn’t qualify anyone for a “best mind”. I’d hope a “best mind” would be, above all, empathetic. Concerned about the well being of their fellow humans. Philosophical about the state of the world. Patient. Curious. Wise and not just smart.…

From context, we can infer that "best minds" means "smart people who make new things." I feel it's fair to lament that, while these people could put their intelligence towards the betterment of everybody, they are often instead working on shit like ad tech.

Probably ‘capable’ should be used instead of ‘best’. The latter might lead the reader astray with notions of ethics.

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Post by snozolli »

zwnow wrote: post #101
lolinder wrote: post #90

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> empathy isn't useful to society ... Having empathy will actively hurt your own life Even if I accepted the second statement (which to be clear, I absolutely do not), it doesn't follow that empathy isn't useful to society. Society is not benefited by everyone running about chasing their own personal success to the exclusion of all others: that kind of world isn't even called a society. We have other names for that a…

I am aware people have trouble building this mental model of an unempathetic society. I am old enough to have witnessed that in 99% of situations people are directly responsible for their own situation. There is no reason to have empathy.

"My confirmation bias has proven me right 99% of the time!"
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