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Why is the world losing color?

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Re: Why is the world losing color?

#261
All cat tractors are yellow. Does this answer your question? A handful of companies make almost all products.

China is a concrete jungle anywhere you have a mass of cameras.

That about sums it up. Not whatever US-based fashion trend that you hate this week.

Re: Why is the world losing color?

#262

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The example they use of Baroque art actually perfectly demonstrates this. It primarily consists of neutral tones that integrate well with the blues and muted oranges woven through it. Not exactly riotous color, as they put it - but very similar to the use of color you see both in modern designs and older cultural traditions. (edit) I do think we've swung a little hard in the direction of color minimalism recently; it…

Isn't all that art faded out, though? I wouldn't be surprised if Baroque period art was originally painted with riotous color first and then faded over time to where it now looks merely like an "opinionated use of color". In a similar vein, all those old grey marble statues the Greeks and Romans made used to be bathed in riotous color before the paint flaked off.

I just searched for some colorised Roman statues and they don't seem to be overusing color. Even complex designs might be basically three colors (e.g. red, blue and white, plus with brown hair and eyes), and the colors themselves are a bit muted. I guess the have been painted based on modern interpretations of the original colors based on whatever limited evidence remains, so maybe those aren't the original colors, but it doesn't seem like a 1990s era website or a garish collection of first gen iMacs and iBooks.

Re: Why is the world losing color?

#263

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> Its a sentence that seems meaningful, but actually is not. It's perfectly meaningful. When everything is colourful you can't use colour to stand out. It's very simple. Obvious even.

> When everything is colourful you can't use colour to stand out. It's very simple. Obvious even. Why not? Different colors stand out. Even gray on black does. They are just not colorful. Look at this painting - [0]. Are you telling me the red tone doesn't stand out? [0] - https://largemodernart.com/products/original-abstract-art-oi...

Come on, I think you know what we mean and are just being pedantic.

Which colour stands out here? https://business.cap.co.uk/sites/default/files/styles/cap_ex...

Re: Why is the world losing color?

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> Its a sentence that seems meaningful, but actually is not. It's perfectly meaningful. When everything is colourful you can't use colour to stand out. It's very simple. Obvious even.

Sure you can. Red rose in a field of green for example. Human eyes evolved to see the colours the way they do precisely because they were working in a world where nearly everything is colourful and some things needed to stand out.

A field of green is not colourful.

> Possessing prominent and varied colors.

Re: Why is the world losing color?

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But you're contrasting chaotic use of many different colors with neutrality, and arguing for environments with very little color rather than well-coordinated color; you argued above that color was just one element along with size, shape, texture etc., as if these qualities were mutually exclusive and design should only emphasize one at any given time.

Well yes, in practice color often is chaotic. Nobody is color-coordinating the cars in the road, or the houses on a street, or the signs and advertisements and billboards. It's a free-for-all that turns into garish noise. And more neutral environments with accent colors makes sense because the main accent is always people and their clothing. Your patterned red dress won't clash with a neutral background. It will like…

I don't want to live in a bland environment hoping some random colorful person will walk in to accent it, though.

Re: Why is the world losing color?

#266
> Baroque art stands in direct defiance of the chromophobic worldview. It doesn’t strip down experience in the name of order, but rather builds it up — embracing sensation and structure together.

All I can say is that if it is not baroque, do not fix it.

Re: Why is the world losing color?

#267

A long time ago I adopted a personal style of wearing bright colors. I have simple good fitting t-shirts in all colors. Glasses in blue and red. Shoes in yellow. Sandals in green. Jackets in orange. You get the idea. It's always easy to make an outfit that goes together and makes a good impression. Men's Japanese and European fashion brands work well with this choice. I see this on the streets in Paris or Amsterdam f…

>I see this on the streets in Paris or Amsterdam fairly commonly, but rarely in the US.

I can't speak to Amsterdam, but it's commonly said that the way you know Americans in Paris is that they're wearing bright colors. The navy blue suit is almost a uniform for professional Parisian men.

Re: Why is the world losing color?

#268

May I make a case for brown? - Brown is an extremely warm color, and sucks up all of the ugly blues from unnatural light sources - Brown pairs well with all sorts of shades and colors, just like the millennial gray and white tones - Brown can come in all sorts of shades and vibrancies, but is not as stimulating as other colors - Brown hides dirt, scuffs, and stains extremely well Humans have spent most of our history…

We famously had "The Brown Era" in video game art direction for a while, maybe 2005-2010. Most people claimed they hated it.

Ironically Quake was like that in 1996, and, partially, Deus Ex.

Re: Why is the world losing color?

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One interesting thread here is the long shadow of Greek and later Roman statuary and architecture on Western European self image - the marble statues, columns, and architecture of the Roman empire were taken as the origin story for Western culture - "we were an empire built on philosophers and artists, and look at the (gleaming white) purity of their works." It turns out, of course, that all those gleaming white stat…

> the Greeks and Romans were not cultures of conformity or austerity - quite the opposite, but the seeds of the philosophy sank in hard, and here we are. I don’t think anyone thinks they were. They are usually assumed to be hedonistic in popular culture

Heh, not in Southern Europe. They are like the spark of the Western Civilization from Law to Arts to Mathematics and Science.

Re: Why is the world losing color?

#270

Just got back from a trip to Spain and Portugal. Basically had culture shock driving down a wide north american road. It's not just the colors. It's the emptiness. The clearance of everything in north america is insane. It's just so boring.

Well, if you went to Spain to the Castilles/Aragon, specially to the Serranía Celtibérica area, you would find the same rural emptiness of the US. And, in Asturias/Cantabria/Palencia, at "Picos de Europa", you woudn't believe that these spikey, rough mountains with hard winters belong to Spain.
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