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Re: xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B

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That military apparatus is sworn to uphold the Constitution, not support the current president.

This only matters if people care enough to act appropriately when that is broken.

I guess we'll see what matters when Trump orders the tanks to roll into Canada.

Re: xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B

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It should be noted that the other xAI shareholders are/were supportive of the X takeover and all. So although I personally don’t like Elon, this doesn’t seem like self dealing as many here claim. Solar City worked out well even though it too seemed like self dealing. There are actually bad things to hate him for but acquisitions fraud is probably not on the table.

What's the source / evidence for that? If the xAI shareholders really are all fine with it there's no ethical issue. But they have to be basically unanimously ok with the deal. Even a small investor has the right to not have their capital used for an insanely conflicted deal.

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Yeah these fantasies where musk would somehow go bankrupt by tanking Tesla and overpaying for Twitter were also wild He’s literally the richest person the earth has ever known. He’s never going to suffer financially. He has countless levers of power he can pull. The same fantasy applies to any past or current president ever spending a day in jail. He literally commands the most powerful military apparatus the world h…

That military apparatus is sworn to uphold the Constitution, not support the current president.

The Constitution isn't worth much right now, and it's up for sale, no less.

Re: xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B

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Okay, I know Tesla's extremely high P/E ratio is because it's worth is not just tied to cars, and so xAI priced at $20B more than Anthropic does not necessarily mean xAI's AI products are that much better than Anthropic's (e.g. presumably xAI's worth is tied to synergies with Tesla FSD, Optimus, and maybe even Neurolink)...but what products does xAI actually offer, other than Grok being an add-on for premium X subscr…

Not a fan of Grok by any means but an SDK isn't that much of a requirement. We use liteLLM as it gets really annoying to roll your own router when you have so many viable providers with various specialties.

Re: xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B

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They swear that they will obey lawful orders from their commanders, all the way up to the President.

Who decides whether order is lawful or not?

There are military lawyers for this. I seem to recall that Trump fired them last month.

Re: xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B

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It bails out Elon and means his Tesla shares (borrowed against to purchase Twitter) won’t be liquidated as Tesla’s share price continues to decline, using xAI investor funds. He uses hype and sentiment (inflating valuations) in the capital markets to always stay slightly ahead of consequences.

Tesla shares are higher now than they were when he closed on Twitter in October 2022.

Maybe he knows something.

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The solar city acquisition was for "only" $2.6 billion. This deal is way bigger. I'm not sure what the Tesla valuation was at the time of that deal, but I have to imagine it's proportionally way bigger too. A $45 billion acquisition when the acquirer, xAI, has an $80 billion valuation will threaten the integrity of xAI. Particularly because that's just a paper valuation and xAI doesn't have much of any revenue. If I…

Just keep in mind this is all funny money ! The valuation of those 2 companies combined should be X is heavily in debt, diminishing user base, and bleeding money. 0 profits xAI is yet to make any actual revenues outside of ... X. Also bleeding money Although I would admit, that these companies are not valued based by their economics, but rather on political power they provide to the owner.

I’m guessing Tesla is paying xAI to train their FSD model?

Re: xAI has acquired X, xAI now valued at $80B

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Can someone please explain this with more words?

My take is that its super obvious X is a rapidly failing social media platform that is reportedly very dangerously leveraged with Tesla stock value... but xAI still has that Zombo.com magic where anything is possible and the unattainable is unknown.

I was watching the US NCAAM basketball tournament last night, and all the announcers had their Twitter handles displayed under their names.

I had a thought that Twitter will eventually become a group of: famous people, media, and bots all just tweeting at each other.

Or people do still use the platform. I never have, so I can’t say one way or the other.

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