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Re: 4o Image Generation

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post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I created a shared link just now, was not presented with any such warning, and have the same problem with the image not showing up: https://chatgpt.com/share/67e319dd-bd08-8013-8f9b-6f5140137f...

Interesting. I see this: https://imgur.com/a/QNWeEoZ

I see it normally on PC, maybe not working well on app?

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I wish AI companies would release new things once a year, like at CES or how Apple does it. This constant stream of releases and announcements feels like it's just for attention.

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post #104

What's important about this new type of image generation that's happening with tokens rather than with diffusion, is that this is effectively reasoning in pixel space. Example: Ask it to draw a notepad with an empty tic-tac-toe, then tell it to make the first move, then you make a move, and so on. You can also do very impressive information-conserving translations, such as changing the drawing style, but also stuff l…

> truly generative UI, where the model produces the next frame of the app

Please sir step away from the keyboard now!

That is an absurd proposition and I hope I never get to use an app that dreams of the next frame. Apps are buggy as they are, I don't need every single action to be interpreted by LLM.

An existing example of this is that AI Minecraft demo and it's a literal nightmare.

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post #254
post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're in the middle of a massive and unprecedented boom in AI capabilities. It is hard to be upset about this phrasing - it is literally true and extremely accurate.

If that's so then there's no need to be hyperbolic about it. Why would they publish a model that is not their most advanced model?

o3 mini wasn't so much a most advanced model, as it was incredibly affordable for the IQ it was presenting at the time. Sometimes it's about efficiency and not being on the frontier.

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> we see the photographer's reflection Am I the only one immediately looking past the amazing text generation, the excellent direction following, the wonderful reflection, and screaming inside my head, "That's not how reflection works!" I know it's super nitpicky when it's so obviously a leap forward on multiple other metrics, but still, that reflection just ain't right.

Haha it's almost like early 2000's game logic, the logic is that it's the opposite of the viewpoint then reversed.

In games they did it by creating a duplicate then reversing it, I wonder if this is the same idea.

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Not a criticism, but It stands out how all the researchers or employees in these videos are non native English speakers (i.e. not American). Nothing wrong with that, on the contrary, it just seems odd that the only American is Altman. Same thing with the last videos from Zuck, if I recall correctly. Especially in this Trump era of MAGA.

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post #264
post #104

What's important about this new type of image generation that's happening with tokens rather than with diffusion, is that this is effectively reasoning in pixel space. Example: Ask it to draw a notepad with an empty tic-tac-toe, then tell it to make the first move, then you make a move, and so on. You can also do very impressive information-conserving translations, such as changing the drawing style, but also stuff l…

> truly generative UI, where the model produces the next frame of the app Please sir step away from the keyboard now! That is an absurd proposition and I hope I never get to use an app that dreams of the next frame. Apps are buggy as they are, I don't need every single action to be interpreted by LLM. An existing example of this is that AI Minecraft demo and it's a literal nightmare.

This argument could be made for every level of abstraction we've added to software so far... yet here we are commenting about it from our buggy apps!

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> we see the photographer's reflection Am I the only one immediately looking past the amazing text generation, the excellent direction following, the wonderful reflection, and screaming inside my head, "That's not how reflection works!" I know it's super nitpicky when it's so obviously a leap forward on multiple other metrics, but still, that reflection just ain't right.

Could you explain more? I'm having trouble seeing anything weird in the reflection.

Edit: are we talking about the first or second image? I meant to say the image with only the woman seems normal. Image with the two people does seem a bit odd.

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Is it live yet? Have been trying it out and am still getting poor results on text generation.

This is OpenAI's bread and butter - announce something as though it's being launched and then proceed to slowly roll it out after a couple of days. Truly infuriating, especially when it's something like this that makes it tough to tell if the feature is even enabled.

They're also copying the Apple and Google style of refusing to show which version of the product you're using.
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