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You'll leave a link to a blatantly disreputable tabloid news blog?
France rejects backdoor mandate
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#262I've found the original debates video on the National Assembly website. My French is good enough for that (not enough for cooking et al. though), so I believe I understood. I'm positively surprised by some deputies remarks. But Bruno (interior minister) Retailleau is either totally incompetent technically, with his advisors as well, or is a liar. "We will apply the math selectively, only for those that are a threat a…
> Freeing France from the drug trafficking trap This reason just like all the other reasons that have been used to try and strip away every shred of privacy that we have (think of the children, fight terrorism and so on) is complete bogus. My mom was working as an admin person in a police station in France back in the 90s and from the many conversations she had with the cops, knowledge was never the problem. They alr…
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#263Just like for other big challenges like biodiversity and climate change, it feels like it often boils down to the politicians just not understanding enough to take rational decisions. Of course they can't all have a PhD in cryptography, but they should also not have no clue at all. Over an over again, politicians are asking for backdoors. To me it just proves that they don't understand the very basic of how encryptio…
> given that the US have become hostile to Europe That’s more than a bit of an overstatement. One faction in the US government has started being less loyal to Europe. Most Americans consider Europe to still be our closest allies and friends. Furthermore the US businesses are not stupid and have shown they will stand up to government pressure around data sovereignty. Anything less will drive both US and global custome…
The feeling isn't mutual.
> Furthermore the US businesses are not stupid and have shown they will stand up to government pressure around data sovereignty.
Only until it threatens their livelihood and family. Don't be naive. The majority of both Democrat and Republican members of the Senate and Congress, and many judges and other people in high positions in the government are afraid of the repercussions of crossing Trump. The US is screwed.
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#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
The "war" on drugs is what brings all of the violence and crime associated with drugs, not the drugs themselves. But it finances the police industrial complex and so many people would lose out (or be forced to focus on actual crimes rather than people consensually trading plants or chemicals) that it will never happen.
> The "war" on drugs is what brings all of the violence and crime associated with drugs, not the drugs themselves. Some of it, certainly, but I doubt it's all. Violence committed by druggies trying to scrape up enough for their next hit would still happen.
It's almost none, because those things don't cost enough to ruin a person's life. Even for most of the serious addicts.
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#265Earlier quoted context omitted.
I admit ambiguity, but I meant 180 opposite. I believe France is and has been the top at individual freedom. That perception is an important reason I'm there, so I acted on it.
> I believe France is and has been the top at individual freedom. You could not be more wrong. However, I am not surprised you would believe that: I have quite a few French friends who believe the exact same thing because they've all drunk the kool-aid that was served to them during their school years, namely that France is the country who invented human rights, freedom of speech, etc... Nothing could be further from…
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#266I've found the original debates video on the National Assembly website. My French is good enough for that (not enough for cooking et al. though), so I believe I understood. I'm positively surprised by some deputies remarks. But Bruno (interior minister) Retailleau is either totally incompetent technically, with his advisors as well, or is a liar. "We will apply the math selectively, only for those that are a threat a…
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#267Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is the line of Russian propaganda. But don't try to explain by malice if it can be perfectly explained by incompetence.
Unbelievable. What does Russian propaganda of all damn things has to do with this? Especially considering that the power takeover in Russia happened much in the same way - people assumed the politicians are dumb and naive, which I'm telling you as someone who tried to resist that takeover. Yes, your politicians - all politicians, regardless of the country - would have been happy to have more power over you and need t…
They welcome Europeans thinking their government is out to get them
> Especially considering that the power takeover in Russia happened much in the same way - people assumed the politicians are dumb and naive
People in Russia did the opposite of that. People in Russia were conditioned by decades of violent dictatorship and were either afraid to make a noise or actively wanted the strongman fascist rule. And the guy in power is actual ex KGB. There's a difference
> your politicians
Putin?
> need to be kept in check.
Keeping in check != assuming the worst. Assuming the worst from everybody is how no one would get anything done. e2ee, like any tech not bad or good inherently helps both goodies and baddies. Not turning blind eye on this is important first step. Even if your gov doesn't get a backdoor now they will keep at it until they find a way because voters who are not extremist libertarian techbros want them to. Your way out is to help them find a good enough way witg a compromise.
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#268Earlier quoted context omitted.
You'll leave a link to a blatantly disreputable tabloid news blog?
So what? The source isn't nearly so relevant as the nature of the information presented. It's tedious to see sometimes useful tidbits for possible investigation get dismissed because they're "disreputable".
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#270Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I believe France is and has been the top at individual freedom. You could not be more wrong. However, I am not surprised you would believe that: I have quite a few French friends who believe the exact same thing because they've all drunk the kool-aid that was served to them during their school years, namely that France is the country who invented human rights, freedom of speech, etc... Nothing could be further from…
Could you give concrete examples of situations where your freedom is restricted in France?
I thought I already did, but here it is again
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieudonn%C3%A9_M%27bala_M%27ba...
The dude kept on saying completely outrageous things on public channels, none of which should have been an issue in a country with normal free speech laws.
Here's another interesting case, where a TV channel was outright shutdown because they said things that the powers that be didn't like. I guess Moscow isn't that far east of France:
https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/french-tv-cha...
Here's another interesting aspect of life in the land of stinky cheese: cash is by law legal tender, as in:
https://www.banque-france.fr/en/monetary-strategy/means-of-p...
However, it is illegal to buy anything with cash if the transaction is more than 1k euros:
https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F10999?...
These are just off the top of my head, the list is very long and quite sad.