@dang Why is this flagged? Even without the politics, knowing that a large cohort is not going to attend in an important piece of information.
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What makes you say that it is family-friendly with a blooming economy? Orbán just banned Pride events nationwide, and vowed to use facial recognition software to fine anyone attending. This all in an attempt to placate the minority of the populace who want these kind of draconian measures (polling points out that the majority of Hungarians do not support this ban), and to draw attention away from the inflation, econo…
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Apparent age vs actual age follows a very different probability distribution than apparent sex vs actual sex (whatever that is). We don't have 10-year-olds looking like 90-year-olds, and if one existed, they would encounter a lot of problems at the border. This is analogous to someone who appears male, even on close inspection, but has an F on their passport (or birth certificate, or driver's license). Plus, these ar…
Those different “definitions” of sex are not the plain and common meaning of sex as reproductive role. “Hormonal sex” is a characteristic, not an alternative conceptual framework of what sex is . Yes, passports should acknowledge intersex conditions and this would be far easier if there weren’t people with unambiguous sex trying to use that mechanism too.
"Sex" is a disguised query [1]. I would not agree with you that the plain and common meaning of sex is that it's the reproductive role (which for many trans people is "permanently sterile" anyway). If you run a clothing store, you don't care about reproductive role, you care about whether someone wears men's or women's fashion. In daily life, a stranger's sex is entirely their appearance: we make a snap judgment to classify it as M or F, and most people will agree for any given person whether they are M or F. It's quite easy to see why that's what matters: if you get a public safety alert on your phone about, say, an "asian male, middle-aged last seen at ..." do you think, in the rare cases where they differ, that this refers to reproductive role or appearance? Let's hope it's appearance!
In daily life, outside of dating perhaps, most people generally don't care about someone's reproductive role. In a public bathroom, most don't really care what's actually between someone's legs so long as the individual looks like they belong. The authorities almost always care about sex only as a visible characteristic for distinguishing people. When you say the common meaning refers to reproductive role, you are probably saying that only because it's a proxy for the aspects of one's sex we actually care about.
This recent obsession that when we talk about someone's sex we obviously mean in a reproductive capacity regardless of context is a totally political fabrication in my opinion, and there's no good reason for a passport agency to prefer that definition. I believe the information on a passport is meant to help identify an individual -- so common-sense sex, i.e. appearance, is most important. (Similarly, requiring trans people to use the public bathroom they don't visually look like they belong in is only going to cause chaos, if they obey such a law.)
[1] https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/4FcxgdvdQP45D6Skg/disguised-...
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Regardless of the political situation, the EU is probably a more friendly environment for a standards body taking their stance in interoperability into account.
It depends on your citizenship. Some European countries reject 50% Indian Schengen visa applicantions. https://www.cntraveller.in/story/these-3-countries-rejected-...
Schengen is different from EU.
More importantly, and according to your link, only Estonia rejected 50+% Indian applications, everyone else rejected less than 50%, with only 2 others anywhere near 50% (Malta and Slovenia).
So out of 29 countries in the Schengen area only 3 were anywhere near the 50% mark and all 3 are tiny countries as far as both area and populations are concerned (those 3 combined account for only 4 million people in total).
Also, just to take one of those 3, Estonia has an overall high rejection rate in comparison to all the others, and that started happening after the pandemic.
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#265Reminds me of [1] from 2013, and [2][3] from 2017. This is not new at all, just affecting more people, and more importantly, more Western people now. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/oct/05/us-scientist... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14643467 [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24369233 Clarification: the “not new” part is foreign attendees not being able to attend conferences in the U.S…
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Western people are more likely to make noise about it when it affects them. No surprises there.
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In a historical context “wellness farms” is understood as a euphemism for concentration camp. It’s free but you can’t leave.
In what historical context was “wellness farm” used as a euphemism?
Do you read ‘wellness farm’ and think it is something literal?
If it was a well accepted term it’d be one thing, but when made up on the spot it very much sounds like “place we sen out undesirables” to me.
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What makes you say that it is family-friendly with a blooming economy? Orbán just banned Pride events nationwide, and vowed to use facial recognition software to fine anyone attending. This all in an attempt to placate the minority of the populace who want these kind of draconian measures (polling points out that the majority of Hungarians do not support this ban), and to draw attention away from the inflation, econo…
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The 'utopia' part was sarcastic (obviously, given the preceding paragraph). I'm sorry you didn't pick up on that.
> aligning himself with more radical western ideology
Such as?
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#268As the current US administration is breaching the ietf's own code of conduct [1] this should be a no brainer. [1] https://www.ietf.org/administration/policies-procedures/code...
It should, but there is, understandably, a lot of inertia and disbelief that this is the new status quo. That, and obviously, as the pamflet points out, a lot of people assume that this won't happen to them. And let's be honest, a lot of people do indeed feel that this will only happen to people who make mistakes in their visa application (knowingly or not), have tattoos (or travel with tattooing gear), participate i…
> disbelief that this is the new status quo
This is called denial or shock, which is a natural result of grief.
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Note that the German greencard holder currently being illegally detained described that he was tortured. See https://www.zeit.de/politik/2025-03/deutscher-us-abschiebeha...
Translation via DeepL: "The German's mother made serious accusations against the immigration authorities in the US media. She told NHPR in New Hampshire that officers had "violently interrogated" her son for hours. He had to strip naked and was forced to take a cold shower by two officers before being put back in his chair. He was then taken to a room with other people in bright light and was given hardly any food or…
The government employees at these border crossing definitely feel too confident that whatever they do will get covered up or ignored by the people above them. And all trust I ever had in the forth estate - nationally and internationally - has gone with this entire mess of a presidency too. They mostly seem to parrot each other's assurances that things that are happening are completely normal, or at least understate heavily. I'm happy outliers exist, including some unexpected ones like Wired Magazine.
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#270Is this a parody? > Beyond problems at the border, the current Secretary for Health and Human Services - Robert F. Kennedy Jr. - has said that he will send those with ADHD to camps. Source: Futurism. What he actually said: > "I’m going to dedicate that revenue to creating wellness farms — drug rehabilitation farms, in rural areas all over this country," he said during the podcast. "I’m going to make it so people can…
In a historical context “wellness farms” is understood as a euphemism for concentration camp. It’s free but you can’t leave.
Not to mention that many farms will be lacking migrant labor due to mass deportations.
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