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Re: IBM completes acquisition of HashiCorp

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Is this even the same company that created Terraform? HashiCorp's trajectory has been baffling...

One of my friends was in management at HashiCorp and what he told he was there were a series of bad internal promotions to product management and heads of development that tanked the company. At the same time there was a huge problem with leftist activist employees taking the company for hostage, not surprised they got scooped up for pennies on the dollar.

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> Every IBM product I've ever used is universally reviled by every person I've met who also had to use it During my time at IBM and at other companies a decade ago, I can name examples of this: * Lotus Notes instead of Microsoft Office. * Lotus Sametime Connect instead of... well Microsoft's instant messengers suck (MSN, Lync, Skype, Teams)... maybe Slack is one of the few tolerable ones? * Rational Team Concert inst…

IBM eventually figured out that these products were terrible too, even if they saved money on paper; sold the Rational/Lotus/Sametime teams to an Indian competitor, and discontinued usage internally (I think, it's a big company).

huh isn't it funny when you dogfood but instead of food it's... nvm

But yeah some elements of that list have convinced me to steer very clear from any products from that company

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Dropping CentOS was a terrible decision. I’m not sure if that happened before or after the acquisition though.

Centos stream still exists and it is in fact the actual upstream of rhel.

CentOS was the downstream of RHEL, and much more people used it than RedHat/IBM knew or wanted to admit. I can argue that at least 90% of their users (by the number of installs) didn't even need any help to configure/troubleshoot that either.

But with a very IBM move and with some tunnel vision, they got triggered by the few people who abuse RedHat license model and rugpulled everyone. More importantly universities, HPC/Research centers and other (mostly research) datacenters which were able to sew their own garments without effort.

Now we have Alma, which is a clone of CentOS stream, and Rocky which tries to be bug to bug compatible with RHEL. It's not a nice state.

They damaged their reputation, goodwill and most importantly the ecosystem severely just to earn some more monies, because number and monies matter more than everything else for IBM.

Remember. When you combine any company with IBM, you get IBM.

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I joined HashiCorp in 2016 to work on Nomad and have been on the product ever since. Definitely a lot of feelings today. When I joined HashiCorp was maybe 50 people. Armon Dadgar personally onboarded us one at a time, and showed me how to use the coffee maker (remember to wash your own dishes!). There have been a lot of ups (IPO) and downs (BUSL), but the Nomad team and users have been the best I've ever gotten to wo…

I've had the incredible displeasure of having to maintain multiple massive legacy COTS systems that were once designed by promising startups and ultimately got bought by IBM. IBM turned every last one into the shittiest enterprise software trash you can imagine. Every IBM product I've ever used is universally reviled by every person I've met who also had to use it, without exaggeration in the slightest. If anything,…

> Every IBM product I've ever used is universally reviled by every person I've met who also had to use it

Not a product, but a service: is Red Hat Linux a counter example?

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I spoke with a guy (too long ago) that was a "genius architect" and worked for a company that was small enough, that he got to implement his castles in the air. Knowing him, they might have been quite good, but it was one person that knew the details and made changes at the architect scale. He had a quirky way of thinking. When IBM acquired that company, after a few weeks, this guy had a meeting with new engineering…

If you are a good at your job and want to deliver fast then you need to adapt to changing circumstances and continue on. Nothing wrong if you can’t but I have learnt that’s how you play along to deliver your best continuously.

You mean perhaps if you define "your job" and "adapting to changing circumstances" strictly through a corporate vocabulary.

One could argue that to deliver his best continuously he adapted to changing circumstances and left.

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RHEL has had no significant investment to keep it from becoming irrelevant in the next five years. The datacenter and deployments of linux have changed so rapidly (mostly due to the new centralization and homogeneity of infrastructure investment) that RHELs niche is rapidly shrinking.

If RHEL is becoming irrelevant, what distro will replace it for enterprise users?

We don’t run anything on bare metal anymore it’s all containers (90k employee very large enterprise).

Of course I can’t speak for all the teams, but all new projects are going out on kubernetes and we don’t care about rhel at all, typically it’s alpine it Debian base images

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I've had the incredible displeasure of having to maintain multiple massive legacy COTS systems that were once designed by promising startups and ultimately got bought by IBM. IBM turned every last one into the shittiest enterprise software trash you can imagine. Every IBM product I've ever used is universally reviled by every person I've met who also had to use it, without exaggeration in the slightest. If anything,…

Isn’t MQ pretty good?

It’s heavy and old. We have to consume some but Kafka is nicer to work with typically (provided someone else is running it)

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An easy way to get someone to admit that terraform is a hacky child’s language is to ask how to simply print out the values of variables and resources you are using in terraform easily. This basic programming language 101 functionality is not present in the language

HCL isn’t a programming language. This seems to be the main misconception about it and Terraform.

It’s so infuriatingly close though which is what makes it so fucking annoying to work with. It has loops, conditionals, variables…

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As it happened with the other startups that were acquired by IBM, this too shall pass through the digestion system of the dinosaur and ejected out as a dump. Hashicorp products are showing the signs of a legacy thing already. IBM is the nursing home for these sort of aging stuff. I'm a heavy user of Terraform and Vault products. Both do not belong to this era. Also worked for a startup acquired and dumped by IBM.

What are the modern equivalents? For Terraform I'd imagine it's Pulumi or OpenTofu but what is it for Vault? Last I checked OpenBao didn't seem to have much juice but it's been a minute since I did so. Or are there unrelated projects in this space that are on the same trajectory as Hashicorp was a decade ago?

Crossplane for TF.

Secrets whatever your cloud provider has (Google secrets manager etc).

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> Every IBM product I've ever used is universally reviled by every person I've met who also had to use it During my time at IBM and at other companies a decade ago, I can name examples of this: * Lotus Notes instead of Microsoft Office. * Lotus Sametime Connect instead of... well Microsoft's instant messengers suck (MSN, Lync, Skype, Teams)... maybe Slack is one of the few tolerable ones? * Rational Team Concert inst…

And what was that thing they used for email?

You mean Lotus Notes?
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