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I found a backdoor into my bed

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Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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The state of the product's security wasn't unexpected. I was, however, shocked by this part: > I was willing to overlook: > The bed costs $2,000 > It won’t function if the internet goes down > Basic features are behind an additional $19/mo subscription > The bed’s only controls are via mobile app Nothing about this bed should depend on off-site servers. Nothing about the product should necessitate a subscription fee.…

it's enough to keep you up at night.

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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My wife uses a Bedjet which has both a remote and app. Thankfully it works without an active Internet connection. It uses a bag-like sheet that it blows air into, to adjust temperature. For women suffering* through menopause, being able to adjust around hot/cold flushes is sanity-preserving! * Some women don't suffer much during perimenopause or menopause, but it's a process that seriously fucks with one's hormones.…

My wife has been suffering with perimenopause tremendously. Her hormonal fluctuations have caused hair loss, severe insomnia, and mood swings that seriously degrade the quality of her life. It's hard to watch. There's no magic trick to fix it, and she isn't doing anything 'wrong' that she should change.

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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post #40

Love the part about the CEO being a Musk sycophant. Right down to the similar language in tweets: "Some of SF got poor sleep. We must fix this."

I remember when mimicking Steve Jobs dress and etc was a thing and how it was kinda cringey. Man I could go for some of that these days.

We were spoiled back then. Creeps and weirdos were relatively endearing.

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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post #40

Love the part about the CEO being a Musk sycophant. Right down to the similar language in tweets: "Some of SF got poor sleep. We must fix this."

I remember when mimicking Steve Jobs dress and etc was a thing and how it was kinda cringey. Man I could go for some of that these days.

Yeah, in hindsight, the black turtlenecks everywhere were the good ol days.

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I rolled my own solution to this using a Boston Dynamics Spot (2nd gen). With the structured light scanner, YOLO v5 for classification, and a custom IK solver (BD's is too hard for me), I can just lay back like a baby once I'm finished and Spot takes care of everything.

This is a super funny idea if it works (in theory; I get it's a joke) and a SUPER funny idea if it malfunctions in particular ways.

Github issue:

My e-ass wiper mistook one of my testicles for poo and ripped it off. Please fix

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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A $20/month bed subscription is objectively hilarious. I cant imagine how this company attracts a non-zero number of clients.

*subjectively. Once you realize just how important quality sleep is, and how much this can help, $20/month bed subscription becomes a laughably small price to pay.

What I don't understand is things like:

    - What's required to justify this cost?
    - How many features and updates does the app require?
    - What could the ongoing server costs be?
    - How many people maintain the software?
I've built some IoT projects and handling events from the hardware was remarkably inexpensive. Piping tiny telemetric packets, even at a high frequency, was no big deal. It wouldn't justify charging customers $20/month. Maybe $2.50?

Plus, these things are only piping out data when they're in use, right? So... Only 1/3 of the day, if that.

Then the feature set, who knows. Is it just a readout with some fixed controls for the firmware in the eight sleep?

How is that justifying $20? Every single month?

I know software (especially when hardware is involved) can be more complicated and demanding than it appears on the surface, so these are genuine questions. I'm very open to having bad assumptions here. It just doesn't map to my experiences properly. Especially since the customers pay a premium for the hardware upfront.

I guess if customers are willing to pay, it's fair game.

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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> For someone who suffers from insomnia this seemed worth a shot. I can relate, having suffered the same for most of my life. One thing that really helped me was a simple white noise machine, typically used to help babies sleep. Good: I sleep great with it. Also, it's not connected to the internet and doesn't require an app. Bad: I basically can't sleep without it. I have to travel with it (camping!). I even purchase…

If you’d rather not buy another gizmo for a function your phone has likely gobbled up already… iOS, iPadOS, and macOS have a pretty great built-in background-noise generator these days. While lots of actual beaches can go dead silent and then have a loud wave crash in, the waves that It’s available in Settings -> Accessibility -> Audio & Visual -> Background Sounds. You’ll have to download the sounds each once, but a…

just tried it, that's cool, but in what circumstances "should" i use it?

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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My wife uses a Bedjet which has both a remote and app. Thankfully it works without an active Internet connection. It uses a bag-like sheet that it blows air into, to adjust temperature. For women suffering* through menopause, being able to adjust around hot/cold flushes is sanity-preserving! * Some women don't suffer much during perimenopause or menopause, but it's a process that seriously fucks with one's hormones.…

I love my BedJet. The app is absolute jank though and really dated, and I didn't get the remote with mine.

If you're running HomeAssistant and you want better controls, grab a spare ESP32 and run the ESPHome BedJet integration. https://esphome.io/components/climate/bedjet.html

(A little ironic you need an external ESP32 to talk to the internal ESP32 that is the BedJet's guts...)

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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> For someone who suffers from insomnia this seemed worth a shot. I can relate, having suffered the same for most of my life. One thing that really helped me was a simple white noise machine, typically used to help babies sleep. Good: I sleep great with it. Also, it's not connected to the internet and doesn't require an app. Bad: I basically can't sleep without it. I have to travel with it (camping!). I even purchase…

I had insomnia for over a decade and all it took to fix that was just weeks of sleep inducer followed by regular melatoin takes. I assumed it will take some gizmos to do that, but apparently it wasn't. Once you could lock your sleep into the daily pattern---something I could never done by myself for a very long time though, hence sleep inducer---then securing it turns out to be much simpler. Consult your psychiatrist first, of course.

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm thinking a Thomas Midgley, Jr.[0] mode. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Midgley_Jr.#Death

Thomas has three different inventions with a massive body count. The last one had a fatality rate of 100%.

I mean, even at the start 13 - 15 people were killed in leaded gas's infancy all because the oil companies couldn't make as much money from ethanol as from tel. That's insane.

A rational society would have shut those companies down and thrown the executives into prison.

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