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Re: Johnny.Decimal – A system to organise your life

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Just a general observation as someone nearing 50. I'm honestly very curious to see if someone has had a different experience than me. I'm am, to put it mildly, not an "organized person". I have tried a million different systems throughout my life - GTD, Inbox Zero, spreadsheets, etc. etc. To be honest, I don't believe that any of these "organization systems" really help people that have problems being organized in th…

>can handle GTD occasionally but reverts to chaos

Same. So I ended up "inventing" what I call miniGTD.

My system got so big and unwieldy, that I threw it away, and just wrote down the most important stuff from memory.

Then I realized that I can just do that every morning. Fill half a page with the most relevant goals and their associated Next Actions. And that's the whole system.

Here's a screenshot: https://files.catbox.moe/jq0u8z.png

It certainly doesn't meet David Allen's criterion of 100%-ing it. But it gives you 80% of the bang for under 20% of the buck!

Rewriting from memory works as a natural filter for priority and urgency. Stuff might slip through the cracks, so when I'm done writing, I just turn to the previous day's page to see if I forgot anything.

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Also, you might want to read Leo Babauta's Zen to Done (ZTD), which fixes most of the issues I've had with GTD. I ended up reinventing most of ZTD on my own, and then smacked myself when I finally read the book, because I had downloaded it 15 years earlier and failed to read it ...

...Also also worth mentioning Scott Young's Weekly/Daily Goals (ZTD has this too) and Cal Newport's system (based entirely around the calendar). They would make David Allen cringe, but they work really well for a lot of people!

Re: Johnny.Decimal – A system to organise your life

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have found that after multiple migrations from one computer to another, some of my file creation dates are incorrect. I don't use JD but I do have a lot of stuff in yearly folders and some of it's clearly wrong. Like I know that I started one of my graphic novels in 2012 but some of the first few pages have dates in 2014 and 2019. Did a computer migration change the dates? Did some edit I did later on save it as a…

Totally agree. Consider the simple act of copying a file. Will it retain the original date or start fresh? There is a correct answer, but maybe it depends on the operating system, or the program you're using to do the copy. But I don't care. "Ain't nobody got time for that." When I want to know the creation date or if I just want a unique name I add a the date as a suffix; 022125. It also helps that it's much easier…

250221 is probably a better format for your needs ;)

Re: Johnny.Decimal – A system to organise your life

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Previous discussions: * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36308366 * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37506640 * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25398027

Thanks! Macroexpanded:

Johnny Decimal: A System to Organize Projects (2015) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37506640 - Sept 2023 (118 comments)

Johnny Decimal - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36308366 - June 2023 (193 comments)

Johnny.Decimal – A System to Organize Projects - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36300472 - June 2023 (1 comment)

Johnny•Decimal - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33683874 - Nov 2022 (1 comment)

Johnny.Decimal - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25398027 - Dec 2020 (187 comments)

Johnny.Decimal – A system to organise projects - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13770827 - March 2017 (2 comments)

Re: Johnny.Decimal – A system to organise your life

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Curious, how relevant is something like this in today's world?

I was fascinated by this when I first saw it years ago. But in today's world, where fuzzy-finding, and A.I. working off embedded vector databases is a thing, how relevant is this system — if the content being organized is electronic stuff on a computer. I get that this may work as a physical organization system.

Re: Johnny.Decimal – A system to organise your life

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Its a beautiful system but where my head explodes (and has been exploding for 4 decades) is over the following scenario. So in Johnny's system, I assign 21 to automobiles. My VW van gets 21.1, my Citron is 21.2, etc. and the insurance for each car gets a .8 so 21.1.8, 21.2.8, etc. And I assign 13 to Money. Insurance belongs under money so 13.5 is insurance and life insurance gets 13.5.1, E&O insurance gets 13.5.2, et…

In today's world, it would be under Ctrl+F -> "insurance". If it were on physical paper, it would be on the folder containing the important documents.

Over-reliance on hierarchy has been identified as a double edged sword of these organizational systems. Hierarchy is only useful when the hierarchy itself matters, e.g. when "grab all documents about this" is a use case, keeping such documents together matters. If the use case is finding one particular document, we have better tools than hierarchy for that, and any time spent on organization is more or less wasted when a good file name and simple storage rules do the work better, and are irrelevant for modern retrieval methods.

Re: Johnny.Decimal – A system to organise your life

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Hey, anyone who can't/won't/doesn't stick with a system... THIS IS FOR YOU. Most organization methods predate search. PARA, for example, can be a decent first cut (active Projects, Areas of responsibility, Reference(research/reading/recreation/really anything), Archive, and you could use that with the below, but don't need to thanks to search.* The real reason we're still trying systems instead of search is we don't…

The one key takeaway from PARA, Johnny Decimal, and such other systems, is that nowadays the system itself doesn't matter much, but replicating the same system across all document and information hubs is still a net advantage.

Re: Johnny.Decimal – A system to organise your life

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post #90

Its a beautiful system but where my head explodes (and has been exploding for 4 decades) is over the following scenario. So in Johnny's system, I assign 21 to automobiles. My VW van gets 21.1, my Citron is 21.2, etc. and the insurance for each car gets a .8 so 21.1.8, 21.2.8, etc. And I assign 13 to Money. Insurance belongs under money so 13.5 is insurance and life insurance gets 13.5.1, E&O insurance gets 13.5.2, et…

In today's world, it would be under Ctrl+F -> "insurance". If it were on physical paper, it would be on the folder containing the important documents. Over-reliance on hierarchy has been identified as a double edged sword of these organizational systems. Hierarchy is only useful when the hierarchy itself matters, e.g. when "grab all documents about this" is a use case, keeping such documents together matters. If the…

I recently learned that you can also access the mac spotlight search index from your terminal using mdfind[1]. It's very nice to use when looking for misplaced pdfs.

[1]https://ss64.com/mac/mdfind.html

Re: Johnny.Decimal – A system to organise your life

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post #90

Its a beautiful system but where my head explodes (and has been exploding for 4 decades) is over the following scenario. So in Johnny's system, I assign 21 to automobiles. My VW van gets 21.1, my Citron is 21.2, etc. and the insurance for each car gets a .8 so 21.1.8, 21.2.8, etc. And I assign 13 to Money. Insurance belongs under money so 13.5 is insurance and life insurance gets 13.5.1, E&O insurance gets 13.5.2, et…

That’s where a tool like TheBrain.com can come in, in which one node can have multiple parents and siblings.
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