Whoa, shipping their own baseband modem for the first time, skipping the Qualcomm tax. That's huge, even for Apple.
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Until today I thought they were interchangeable spellings.
I'm curious, is "woah" incorrect? If so, why?
Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
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Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
#262It seems that this will cannibalize iPhone 16 sales - it's $200 cheaper, same form factor and internals, with the only difference being the camera, which if you care about you go for the Pro model. However, the price makes for a much more appealing upgrade for anyone who has an older iPhone
>, with the only difference being the camera, which if you care about you go for the Pro model. Some people may care a little extra for an ultrawide lens and spending more for the cheaper iPhone 16 with 2 lenses of regular + ultrawide is enough for that. Don't have to get the more expensive Pro model. The Pro model adds a 3rd lens for optical "true" telephoto instead of digitized "fake" telephoto and increases the re…
Everyone I've talked to would prefer the telephoto over the ultrawide for the non-pro models.
But then why would you buy the pro?
Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
#263Check out the battery life! > iPhone 16e has the best battery life ever on a 6.1-inch iPhone, lasting up to six hours longer than iPhone 11 and up to 12 hours longer than all generations of iPhone SE. Their page comparing models claims the new 16e gets "26 hours video playback." iPhone 16e: 26 hours iPhone 16: 22 hours iPhone 15: 20 hours iPhone 14: 20 hours iPhone 13: 19 hours iPhone 12: 17 hours iPhone 11: 17 hours…
26 hours of battery life but you still have to charge it with a cable (they didn't add MagSafe). This might be a deal breaker for me…
It has wireless charging, just not MagSafe.
Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
#264Check out the battery life! > iPhone 16e has the best battery life ever on a 6.1-inch iPhone, lasting up to six hours longer than iPhone 11 and up to 12 hours longer than all generations of iPhone SE. Their page comparing models claims the new 16e gets "26 hours video playback." iPhone 16e: 26 hours iPhone 16: 22 hours iPhone 15: 20 hours iPhone 14: 20 hours iPhone 13: 19 hours iPhone 12: 17 hours iPhone 11: 17 hours…
26 hours of battery life but you still have to charge it with a cable (they didn't add MagSafe). This might be a deal breaker for me…
The article says it supports wireless charging.
Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
#265Is this a replacement for the "SE" line? It seems similar to the previous SE models in that it's cheaper, uses an older body, and is released in an off month. The marketing copy in the OP also compares it to the older SE phones. I am guessing that's the end of the small phone line at Apple.
It’s funny that the marketing for this is about introducing a new member of the family. But it doesn’t also mention that one other member has been disowned/excommunicated
It's like when your employer says "we're all one big family" and then fires people. Makes you wonder what their families are like...
"Is Uncle Dave coming this Thanksgiving?"
"No, he was adopted by a competing family. We're suing."
Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
#266Earlier quoted context omitted.
The 13 mini was discontinued in 2023. The smallest possible iPhone ever was possibly the original iPhone.
You can still buy a pristine 13 mini on the secondary market. The original iPhone is not a viable device today, but the 13 mini is better across every tech axis (better processor, battery life, screen, camera, ...) than the SE and is worth comparing to.
This is missing the point. I have a 3rd gen SE and am not currently in the market for a new phone. The issue is that Apple is no longer selling anything to people who want a small iPhone. Moreover, the used market will dry up eventually, and iOS support will be dropped even sooner.
Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
#267$599, 128gb base model.
Welp rip any interest a bunch of us had in an iphoneSE4.
What a fucking waste of time. The sad thing is I can accept that apple continually wants miserable storage base tiers, that ship has sailed and they will never see 256gb as logical starting points on a phone so damn expensive when their computers start at that horrid storage point.
If it was $499 I would have contemplated finally upgrading. At $599 I'll let everyone else beta test apples new modem in case its another 'you're holding it wrong' type of response if it underperforms in speed, connection quality, etc.
Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
#268Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The lineup is a little strange. They have Macs they call Macbook Airs, but their Macbooks look like "Air" Macbooks, they really should have swapped the names on those models long ago.
The no-adjective MacBook hasn’t been sold for years. It’s just Air and Pro again now.
Makes sense, it never made sense to downgrade, I guess the Air should drop "Air" moving forward then...
Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
#269Let's see... it's replacing the SE, which is no longer on Apple's website. It's more expensive than the SE, at $599 vs $429. It's a pretty substantial hardware upgrade over the SE, including something like 75% more battery life by Apple's numbers, but it's also noticeably bigger. Apple's own comparison tool is useful: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-16e,i...
> but it's also noticeably bigger.
I dunno, the old SE wasn’t a mini by any means - this is .3 inches taller and .2 inches wider, so yes bigger but not like a different size class altogether
Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e
#270Looks more and more that Apple is pushing AI inference to the edges, with this and the Mac Mini and it's very suspiciously placed power button which says "No, you don't need to shut this computer off. It has important work to do! (For everyone else)" Will be interesting to see how Apple and Nvidia's approaches to AI compare and contrast over the coming months/years.
I am hoping Apple at some point in the future will allow iphone owners who also own a Mac with an M series chip to run Apple Intelligence from the Mac to take advantage of faster compute and larger parameter models while still operating at the 'edge'. If the apple private cloud tech allows for a Tailscale like connectivity between your mac and all iphone/ipads on an icloud account I could see that as an additional hook to stay inside the apple ecosystem in addition to the benefits brought to bear by having a much more capable LLM to offload compute to without involving 3rd party AI companies. Perhaps bundle the feature with iCloud+ subscription?