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"Ensuring Accountability for All Agencies" – Executive Order

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Re: "Ensuring Accountability for All Agencies" – Executive Order

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Post by Nasrudith »

marcosdumay wrote: post #242
tmpz22 wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a false narrative that Obama was soft on immigration and even earned the nickname “deporter in chief”. In some ways he was even harder than Bush during the post 9/11 response. www.migrationpolicy.org/article/obama-record-deportations-deporter-chief-or-not It’s astounding the regularity over the last 100 years that conservatives have used immigration narratives to fire up their base regardless of what statistical…

It's complex. Obama may have deported lots of people, but Trump famously used the same institutions to detain and torture minors indefinitely... Which of those is "harder" against immigration? It's the same issue that is happening now. Biden deported a lot more people, but he focused on people entering the US or caught doing something. Trump is deporting a low fewer people, but he randomly taking people from their ho…

So in other words his supporters are a bunch of sadistic idiots who would rather see kindergartners tortured than a cartel member deported into custody because it means a hard tough man is in charge!

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Post by lubujackson »

jfghi wrote: post #241

Who wrote this?

The President of the United States, of course. Or one of his subordinates, who, according to this missive, has the full authority same as the U.S. president, of course.

"An assault on the king's men is the same as an assault on the king" and all that...

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Post by Zamaamiro »

scarab92 wrote: post #201
ptah wrote: post #173

this is impacting scientific research to the point that people are scrubbing the word "gender" from their papers to avoid their research programs getting flagged by the doge gestapo

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That "essentially" is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

Please point me to a specific Executive Order issued during Biden's administration that resulted in "forced speech."

On the other hand, the current administration has issued Executive Orders, memoranda, and other official communications that very explicitly direct government agencies to engage in censorship, with the National Science Foundation going as far as to compile a list of sensitive words, flagging any materials including words such as "woman", "female", "disability", and "LGBT."

[1] https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/endi...

[2] https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1388501/dl?inline

[3] https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2025/02/04/national-s...

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Post by Nasrudith »

intended wrote: post #142
blased wrote: post #135

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So when 4 years pass and we’re still voting, are you going to admit you are hyperbolic and divorced from reality?

Would you be around if he does what he says ? At what point are your personal thresholds crossed? I dont understand personally, how any conservative could tolerate this man. Nor any techie lose their minds when someone without a security clearance gets access to sensitive national networks. I’ve seen more complex plans used by spies to break into state secrets. Yet, people are surprisingly chill. So perhaps I am wron…

The red line for Trump's people unfortunately isn't doing anything bad. He could shoot a man on fifth avenue and not lose them. It would take him doing something which shows actual human decency and actually helps people. If he attempted to create "Trump-care" providing unconditional healthcare for all he would be impeached and out on his ass. God forbid if he were to recognize LGBTQ rights and acknowledge their legitimacy, that action would literally kill people from shock.

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Post by unethical_ban »

grandempire wrote: post #30

The only rebuttal I see in the media is that congress set these up to be “independent”. But our government doesn’t have independent branches. In fact that sounds a lot like “unelected and unaccountable”. So which branches are these agencies under? Is it in the judicial, legislative, or executive - and if it’s in the executive why can’t the chief executive manage business? On the other hand, one of the issues brought…

>But our government doesn’t have independent branches.

Yes, it does, by the nature of them existing and Congress establishing them. Show me where in the Constitution that they can't do that.

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Post by TrackerFF »

akomtu wrote: post #178

No employee of the executive branch acting in their official capacity may advance an interpretation of the law as the position of the United States that contravenes the President or the Attorney General’s opinion on a matter of law In other words, "I will interpret the law for you, from now on. Don't attempt to read the law yourself."

There are no laws in Oceania, only crimes.

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Post by Zamaamiro »

h335ian wrote: post #37

So disappointed by the irrational and hyperbolic comments from my fellow nerds. Why are folks reading into this so much!? Clearly folks aren’t actually reading the content and just reacting based on a headline. Read, contemplate, compose. This really shouldn’t be an inflammatory exec order - from what I can tell this is precisely within the purview of a POTUS and precisely in line with historical exec orders. Why the…

Rather than gesturing generally at all of these "irrational" and "hyperbolic" comments, why not take the time to thoughtfully rebut any specific comment that you believe is engaging in irrationality and hyperbole?

I would also cool it with the dismissive tone and avoid saying things like "cray cray" before accusing anyone else of being juvenile.

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Post by Zamaamiro »

grandempire wrote: post #206
KittenInABox wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dunno, it makes sense that the federal branch that manages interest rates is independent of the president. Didn't we have a whole thing where Trump couldn't force rate increases or decreases back in 2020? Do we really want Trump to declare interest rate changes via tweeting or whatever? What about things like drug approvals? I don't want Trump to ban certain drugs just because they didn't donate to his campaign. I…

It makes sense that we don’t elect a fed chairmen, but if the fed chairmen doesn’t report to any elected official then where do they get their authority? Supreme Court Judges are appointed by elected officials, but then don’t report to anyone. Maybe a fed chairmen is like that? But there is no constitutional office like that. Surely congress can’t make up offices which are then untouchable? I don’t want trump playing…

The chairman of the Federal Reserve is accountable to Congress. The chairman must regularly report to and testify before Congress.

This is established in the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.

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Post by alsoforgotmypwd »

marcosdumay wrote: post #234
nimbius wrote: post #161

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this is quite similar to anyone familiar with prussia, berlin and the constituent national assembly of 1845 in the context of the historical power struggle between vichy merchant classes and their royal monarchs during the advent of the steam era. it seems the same play is being made in 2025 at the advent of AI and Tech supremacy as it comes to a headroads with the death of traditional US neoliberalism. Tech is more…

Can we drop the "tech" prefix from our neo-feudalism? Technology is necessarily a progressive force, and feudalism is necessarily a stagnatory conservative structure. The "Tech Supremacy" group is visibly opposed to technology, and it's reflecting more and more on society as they gain power.

No, because it's enabled by the tech industry and tech figures. It's not big pharma or big oil that has anywhere near as much lobbying power or money.
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