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Re: Why is Warner Bros. Discovery putting old movies on YouTube?

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Post by 7thaccount »

dade_ wrote: post #228
TuringNYC wrote: post #203

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>> I assume that bandwidth is by far the biggest cost for running your own streaming service, so letting Google take that hit makes a lot of sense. Judging from the clunky, buggy, nonsensical experiences on 2nd tier streaming services (i.e., everything except Netflix, Amazon Prime, YouTube, Disney+, Max), I'd say the biggest cost is probably hiring a decent Engineering+Product+Test team. There are complexities here,…

don’t forget the burning paper bag of shit that is Paramount+ on PS5. There is no shame anymore.

It's gotten better over the past couple of years. Even Disney+ has a lot of issues like some kid shows will play like 10 minutes of end credits after an episode instead of going to the next one. Not sure if that is finally fixed. In general, Netflix is still light-years ahead of the competition.

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Post by znpy »

deelowe wrote: post #242
jmholla wrote: post #217

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> Judging from the clunky, buggy, nonsensical experiences on 2nd tier streaming services (i.e., everything except Netflix, Amazon Prime, YouTube, Disney+, Max) With the exception of Netflix, these other companies' apps are similarly buggy and painful to use. I run into an at least issue daily (usually multiple times a day) in every streaming app I use except Netflix.

I LOATHE peacock. I don't know what checks they do at the start of the stream, but they always peg me at 720p or lower resolution despite having over 300mb. Its not an issue on any other streaming app and they give you no option to set it manually. Streams look like a dog's breakfast on my 4k TVs.

Maybe the issue is on their side. Their best outcome is you paying for 4k hdr and streaming 720p. Bandwidth is expensive and slow to provision.

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Post by taurknaut »

richiebful1 wrote: post #146
wbl wrote: post #116

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What is the similarity between the Dominicans and the Jesuits? Both were started to fight heresy: the Dominicans the Cathars, the Jesuits the Protestants. Both were started by soldiers. Both have unique spiritual disciplines. What's the difference? Meet any Cathars lately?

To be fair, the Protestants had the printing press and significant political support on their side

Luther also showed up just as the HRE's centralization was beginning to show major major cracks. Luther wasn't the first "heretic" to challenge the catholic church, but he was the first one with major political support (a duke or a prince, I can't recall which).

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Post by uxp100 »

georgeecollins wrote: post #224
atVelocet wrote: post #75

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Nope. Same applies to the third one. Awesome funny movie and i think the best part of this „trilogy“.

Yeah I was going to say the III one is surprisingly good. I used to know the director and he was super cool. Also produced re-animator. He also did a weird low budget movie called "society" which is interesting.

There are a few horror and sci fi movies with similar themes to Society that all came out around the same time. Society is probably the wildest. Worth a watch.

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Post by bb88 »

deelowe wrote: post #242
jmholla wrote: post #217

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> Judging from the clunky, buggy, nonsensical experiences on 2nd tier streaming services (i.e., everything except Netflix, Amazon Prime, YouTube, Disney+, Max) With the exception of Netflix, these other companies' apps are similarly buggy and painful to use. I run into an at least issue daily (usually multiple times a day) in every streaming app I use except Netflix.

I LOATHE peacock. I don't know what checks they do at the start of the stream, but they always peg me at 720p or lower resolution despite having over 300mb. Its not an issue on any other streaming app and they give you no option to set it manually. Streams look like a dog's breakfast on my 4k TVs.

Are you behind a CG-NAT? Not all companies have caught up to the fact that one IP is used by multiple customers now.

Things like throttling by IP Address which used to be a viable option is not effective anymore.

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Post by bluedevil2k »

jshen wrote: post #210
bluedevil2k wrote: post #31

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The only 2 companies that made money during the “streaming wars” were Netflix, which had the infrastructure in place already and didn’t need to build anything from scratch, and Sony, which decided not to build any streaming service and just license all its content out. Seems WBD is following the lead of a winner. * https://www.yahoo.com/tech/sony-succeeded-becoming-powerful-...

Disney has been profitable lately. Also odd to say that Netflix had the infrastructure already. They built it from scratch.

I meant they had the infrastructure already when the streaming wars started roughly around Covid.

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Post by dylan604 »

Jakob wrote: post #213
dylan604 wrote: post #128

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> But running a CDN at that scale is gonna require experience and truck load of money Take Netflix for example. Their CDN at scale is pretty good for VOD type of delivery, but they continue to get it wrong for live event streaming. Even Twit..er, X falls down with their large event live streaming. Adding the "live" component makes everything just that much harder

It’s actually not harder thanks to HLS: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Live_Streaming Live streaming with HLS is equal to distributing static files and can be very low latency. If you need to go below 3s of latency, yes it becomes harder, but everything else is thankfully solved. The bigger issue with live streaming are the peaks: 0 views in one second and millions in the next. Even with static content delivery…

> but everything else is thankfully solved.

well, since it's so easy for you, you should apply at Netflix as they can't figure it out.

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Post by sfilmeyer »

Suppafly wrote: post #221
jmholla wrote: post #217

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> Judging from the clunky, buggy, nonsensical experiences on 2nd tier streaming services (i.e., everything except Netflix, Amazon Prime, YouTube, Disney+, Max) With the exception of Netflix, these other companies' apps are similarly buggy and painful to use. I run into an at least issue daily (usually multiple times a day) in every streaming app I use except Netflix.

>With the exception of Netflix, these other companies' apps are similarly buggy and painful to use. Yeah it's really annoying that they all recreated the wheel instead of just playing ball with netflix or paying netflix to license their technology. The only feature I miss from another service is that x-ray view stuff that Amazon has to let you know who is in a scene.

>or paying netflix to license their technology

Does Netflix license their technology to anyone? I know of examples like BAMTech, although I don't even know if they still take on outside clients or just do Disney now. I get that their might be good options to license and that fewer companies should build crappy in-house products, but is Netflix one of them?

From Netflix's perspective, it's not clear to me that the payment for licensing technology to e.g. NBC is worth it, versus hoping that they end up with an inferior product, especially when they're competing with each other for customers and licensed content.

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Post by Cody-99 »

inopinatus wrote: post #215
scarab92 wrote: post #88

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Don't let the cloud providers fool you. Bandwidth is cheap, especially for Googles, Netflixes and Cloudflares of the world which peer with every ISP that matters.

Cloudflare wishes it peered with everyone and steers its own astroturfing pressure groups hoping to achieve that. The economics are similar though; their major product remains DDoS sinking, so driving down the marginal cost of traffic is Cloudflare’s strategy. The difference is that the content they mediate is thereby an incentive towards peering and not the core business proposition.

Astroturfing pressure groups is a crazy way to describe the bandwidth alliance lol.
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