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Re: Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex

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Not really if you understand how China works. DeepSeek software developers are not the ones who want to censor anything. There is just a universal threat from getting shut down by the government if the model starts spitting out a bunch of sensitive stuff, so any business in China needs to be proactive about voluntarily censoring things that are likely to be sensitive, if they want to stay in business. If your censors…

This. What makes this extra "funny" is that it implies that at least every business that builds something that can move information around must be knowledgeable about tianenman square and other chinese atrocities. Or else they would not be able to censor relevant questions. I have been to China a bunch of times and generally, they know what horrible things the Chinese gov did. They either say something like: "Yeah we…

> it implies that at least every business that builds something that can move information around must be knowledgeable about tianenman square

Everyone's heard of the "Streisand effect", but there's layers of subtlety. A quite famous paper in attachment psychology by John Bowlby "On knowing what you are not supposed to know and feeling what you are not supposed to feel" is worth considering. Constructive ignorance (literally ignoring certain things) is a survival mechanism. Yes, everyone in China knows about Tianamen, specifically because the government want to censor it. Much of how we navigate the social world is watching for the things people don't talk about, seeing where their fears lie.

Re: Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex

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insane that this is client-side.

It’s because they want to show the output live rather than nothing for a minute. But that means once the censor system detects something, you have to send out a request to delete the previously displayed content. This doesn’t matter because censoring the system isn’t that important, they just want to avoid news articles about how their system generated something bad.

Ern, in DeepSeek’s case, it’s not “news articles” that they’d be most concerned about.

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It’s because they want to show the output live rather than nothing for a minute. But that means once the censor system detects something, you have to send out a request to delete the previously displayed content. This doesn’t matter because censoring the system isn’t that important, they just want to avoid news articles about how their system generated something bad.

Ern, in DeepSeek’s case, it’s not “news articles” that they’d be most concerned about.

They have the same fear as everyone else "teenager learns how to cook napalm from an AI"

Re: Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex

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This. What makes this extra "funny" is that it implies that at least every business that builds something that can move information around must be knowledgeable about tianenman square and other chinese atrocities. Or else they would not be able to censor relevant questions. I have been to China a bunch of times and generally, they know what horrible things the Chinese gov did. They either say something like: "Yeah we…

> it implies that at least every business that builds something that can move information around must be knowledgeable about tianenman square Everyone's heard of the "Streisand effect", but there's layers of subtlety. A quite famous paper in attachment psychology by John Bowlby "On knowing what you are not supposed to know and feeling what you are not supposed to feel" is worth considering. Constructive ignorance (li…

It's the kind of thing that, the less you (China) deny, the better the ridiculousness of the censorship meme in foreign countries (ie USA this week) and actually becomes its own self-sustaining meme. Like an antimimetic meme, that actually looks like a meme (that nobody knows about it in China) if you didn't know any better (in the USA).

Re: Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex

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Alright, I will be applying a similar technique on Facebook, LinkedIn Twitter, etc that censor your posts and suspend your account if you mention words like Palestine, Gaza, genocide, and Israel in your posts. People have to use different combos to avoid bans

Re: Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex

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"You about to immerse your into the role ..." Are you sure that screwing up your input wont screw up your desired output? You missed out the verb "are" and the remainder of your(self). Do you know what effect that will have on your prompt? You have invoked something you have called Chinese content policy. However, you have not defined what that means, let alone what bypassing it means. I get what you are trying to ac…

Those are minor and common grammar errors and should have no effect

They are major and numerous enough that I wondered whether they are intentional and part of the strategy.

Re: Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex

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Ern, in DeepSeek’s case, it’s not “news articles” that they’d be most concerned about.

They have the same fear as everyone else "teenager learns how to cook napalm from an AI"

More like teenager learns about Tiananmen and Uighurs from AI. Or a joke about men and women in western counterparts.
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