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Goodbye, Slopify

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Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#261
Kudos to all the people who shared their opinions and mentioned many alternative services and tools. When I wrote the original post, I didn't know it would end up on HN and spark a discussion here, which means the topic is relevant. It's not just about the slop music itself, but the way Spotify is evolving (or devolving).

I enjoyed the Weekly Discovery and Made For You playlists for years and its suggestion mechanisms were just what I needed. I could tolerate the terrible UI and other minor flaws of the app as long as the excitement of discovering new music continued. I also didn't like the special promotions, podcast recommendations, and other novelties, but the real value was there and it kept me paying for the service.

The changes started around 2020, when the playlists started to contain fewer songs and artists that I could call discoveries. I found myself in what could be called a music bubble, and it didn't feel like it was growing much.

Also, when I first started using Spotify, I spent a lot of time in the app and was more involved in the listening process. Now I was mostly just hitting the button, minimizing the window, and listening to music in the background. It became less interesting. I'd come back to the app occasionally to skip (or block) a track I didn't like. And then came the AI-generated tracks, which was the last straw for me.

Not that I hate Spotify, it's just sad to see it go the way of enshitification. It probably still meets the needs of millions of other users, but I'm no longer one of them. In fact, I'm grateful for the opportunity to be more conscious about my hobby again. I still have my mp3 library that I've been building since the late 1990s, and I still buy and donate to artists from time to time, so I just have to relearn how to do the things that AI algorithms have tried (and failed) to do for me.

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#262

Even before the rise of AI music, they started "customizing" playlists based on the algorithm, so that you see different songs compared to someone else who subscribes to the same playlist. This was one of the reasons why I left Spotify. There are hundreds of posts about this issue on the Spotify community site, e.g. https://community.spotify.com/t5/Content-Questions/Option-to... https://community.spotify.com/t5/Conte…

So that is why I have been unable to discover new songs on spotify like before. Guess I will move over to yt music.

nah YT music is cappy too. just crappy in a different way.

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#264

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Woke up today not knowing people even thought AI could be citizens. Wish I could go back to that time

Johnny 5 became a citizen in 1988. You're at least 35 years behind the times. In real life, Saudi Arabia granted a robot citizenship in 2017. https://web.archive.org/web/20171110114747/https://cic.org.s...

I mean, that is not anywhere near what we are talking about. It's like those towns that make a dog the mayor to get in the news

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#265

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But an iPod from the 2004 era is both hard to use and very heavy. You can get a tiny flash-based modern mp3 player for $30-$40, which is below the apparent price of a 2004 iPod on eBay.

Mmm agree to disagree, iPod classic is not a heavyweight device and the UX is what we had when I was a kid so easy AND nostalgic, but agreed the little sandisk clips solve the problem just as well. Edit: I can't imagine swapping HDD for flash saves more than a few grams, can it?

I've had about 4 San Disk clips now. mostly because I lose them or put them through the wash.

some of the older models were definitely better, but at 20-40 bucks each and no real dependencies on the rest of my personal computer ecosystem it's a fair trade.

it's only that Spotify and YT music are easy to use that I haven't bought a new one. with enshitifacation being a thing I might go back

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#266

Are there any good AI-generated songs out there that are actually good to the point that you'd add it to one of your playlists?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5JlXCo3Rb4 This one is also really good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hX8iQvs2mw

Thanks haha! I sent these to my mom and she thought these were hilarious

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#267

I can't understand how people use Spotify. It was great ~10 years ago? It's terrible these days. Pushing Podcasts at you (no thanks, Podcasts are terrible. If I wanted to hear idiots laughing at each other I'd listen to the Radio DJs), terrible music, the UI getting harder and less intuitive to use. It's a shame all good things have to slowly tend towards sucking, instead of getting better. Bitwarden, one of my belov…

Terrible music? You know you choose what you listen to, right?

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

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I had an iPod in 2004. I gave it away because it was too heavy to carry around. I ultimately replaced it with a Zen Stone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Zen#ZEN_Stone/Stone_P...

With the HDD swapped out for flash the weight is going to be much less, isn't it?

So what, you want to modify a good mp3 player to look more like a bad one?

With the classic iPod you've got a bad UI instead of a good UI and a large object instead of a small one. And while it will be lighter without the hard drive, it will still be a lot heavier than an mp3 player. It's pure downside on several different dimensions.

If you want to play your music on a device shaped like an iPod, it's even easier to use your existing phone.

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

#269
Since people are reminiscing on the loss of their favorite music services from the past, I'd like to add We Are Hunted [1] to the list.

> proprietary search technology which continuously scanned the Internet to identify the hottest new music in the world.

For a short period is was the best way to discover new unknown music. It was bought by Twitter, folded into Twitter music (even though they never created a comparable feature) and killed along with it.

If anyone knows anything like this that exists today, please let me know.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Are_Hunted

Re: Goodbye, Slopify

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AI music is fine take it or leave it. The killer app of Spotify has been expanding my horizons past the 30 tracks on my MP3 player. But that seems to have stalled. I do like being notified when bands I like release new music. I am hopeless at keeping up with music so thats useful.

> I do like being notified when bands I like release new music. One of my main complaints with Spotify is how lousy it is with that for me. Release Radar is usually a pile of songs almost, but not quite, entirely unlike what I listen to. Bands it knows I follow since it makes playlists for them will have new tracks never show up unless I go to their page or it comes up randomly. I have no idea what the "follow" featu…

I get targeted ads via the spotify app (and email sometimes) for Beast in Black, The Sword and Hammerfall. I dont really have the wide musical taste to comment in broad strokes but I havent missed an album for these so I am rather content.

Release radar does seem useless.

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