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Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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post #252

Always nice to see the American population kept safe from propaganda, affordable rents, a working healthcare system and fresh food for 90 cents.

You missed what this is actually about. This is about protecting the US from a foreign adversary. It's geo politics. China does the same with banning Facebook.

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post #241

US is the same country that allows a practical monopoly of NVIDIA on GPUs and Intel on CPU (or at least an oligopoly), and then pretend "foreigners are out to get us". It gets one to know one.

This is a US policy for US citizens. Of course they are protecting their own. China does the same. No Facebook or Google allowed in China.

On the other hand, I find this a bit concerning too? The USA is starting to look a bit more like China. There is now only “one world view” for us. Given the friend group between the people who run X and Meta and it might leave us in a precarious situation?

Banning TikTok only treats the symptom , the real disease is that people are way to susceptible to propaganda and misinformation.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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> “I think that would be, certainly, an option that we look at. The 90-day extension is something that will be most likely done, because it’s appropriate. You know, it’s appropriate. We have to look at it carefully. It’s a very big situation,” Trump told the outlet.

I would have thought that indeed, they have looked at it already carefully.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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post #213

was not really on TikTok but a bleak day for anyone that believes in the free speech ideals the US was founded on

Aww yes I believe it was Thomas Jefferson who wrote about the need to form a more perfect union that allows hostile foreign governments to run a direct unfettered pipeline into the minds of its youth with zero oversight.

Luckily we get the unfettered propaganda pipeline of hostile american billionaires instead.

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post #148

It's a shame that it's come to this. I feel that all arguments that TikTok is unhealthy or spyware and bad for our general public are valid, but the same arguments also apply to Instagram/Twitter/Whatever. Rather than have some sort of further regulation for what data any application can collect and present to Americans, we've just brought the hammer down on the millions of people that use this application for their…

None of those arguments are the salient one, which is that a geopolitical adversary has control over a major influence vector on US public opinion. They could simply have divested.

That might make policy sense in a world where those same adversaries couldn't just pay a western social media company to exert the same control. But since they can, it smells much more like protecting a monopoly than anything to do with preventing control.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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The app was shutdown a couple of hours ago in the US and this was the message all TikTok users saw when they opened the app.[1] The same guy who pushed for a ban massively last year, is going to save the app despite the security concerns he and most of our government said they had. If only we knew what happened in that classified briefing that made them vote together across party lines. [1] https://a57.foxnews.com/st…

> made them vote together across party lines

Ha, is that uniparty vote supposed to be something meaningful? If the government had true concerns, they could 1) be aired to the public and 2) other senators like Thomas Massie and Rand Paul would not be speaking against the ban.

People can change their views and minds. It's only a problem when you lie and pretend you didn't. Pres Biden signed the law and could suspend it now if he wanted, but he chose not to do it as it'd be contradictory to his own signing. And of course soon-to-be President Trump will get the credit for reverting it. Nobody cares about the details beyond those invested into politik.

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There is no system of digital content distribution that can withstand the will of Government. The only thing that can be done is for the citizens of that government to wake up and take the power away from those that are wielding it to further enrich themselves at the expense of everyone else. I am not a user of TikTok but this is not a good development for our "perfect union", nor the freedom of the internet in the U…

except for like i2psnark or something

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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post #224

I think a lot of people on here never spent much time on TikTok and it shows. It wasn't just for young people and it wasn't all brain rot. There were vibrant communities, subcultures. Real issues were aired there. Real people connected. From the early days of Covid it provided a window into a broader world.

I haven't seen anyone argue that TikTok provides zero value.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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post #257

Unreal. Land of Freedom bans Social Media app that runs on US servers, on its own terms, with censorship teams staffed by dozens of ex-US State officials[1]. Amazing that Congress will see bipartisan action on this issue before any of the other much more important issues. It absolutely destroys criticisms of China banning Facebook, etc. 1. https://www.mintpressnews.com/tiktok-chinese-trojan-horse-ru...

Wasn't the concern of data being siphoned off to China? Even India has banned it. Where does freedom come into picture here?
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