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Google’s Marissa Mayer Tapped as Yahoo’s Chief

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Re: Google’s Marissa Mayer Tapped as Yahoo’s Chief

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Her first priority should be to restore Flickr as a leader in photo and video sharing. With her "coolness" factor at the helm (even though personally I don't think she's that cool) this is possible, and the world would be a better place for it.

Flickr is Yahoo's best long term asset.

Re: Google’s Marissa Mayer Tapped as Yahoo’s Chief

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True, but Yahoo! has made so many mistakes that she would have to really to screw up (like lie on your resume) for it to hurt her reputation. So that time and opportunity cost is unlikely to ever be a waste. If she fails, well Yahoo! was already a failure, if she succeeds, she's a perceived as savior. Either way, she's a contenter for ceo of any other major internet company going forward.

I see it as the wrestling with a pig problem. If you wrestle with a pig, both of you get dirty, and the pig enjoys it. Meyer's a superstar right now. Yahoo's had an anti-Midas touch on several people who've attempted to steer it right.

I really don't understand why people are saying she won't get a reputation hit from this if she fails. Every other CEO trying to steer Yahoo right so far in recent history has a black eye and had to leave in relative disgrace. None of them had the superstar status that she has right now, but the fact is, none of them were allowed the conclusion "well, Yahoo was just too screwed up anyway". I'm not convinced that she'll be able to escape getting a black eye if she also fails. People are harsh on Yahoo CEOs. The deck is stacked against them in so many ways.

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Could you explain more what you mean by non-execution? I don't travel in circles where I have context for something like that and it sounds interesting.

I had a CEO once who used to say "execute" a lot. I didn't really know what it meant either but it felt exciting when he said it. Sometimes I say it myself in the shower, when there's no-one within earshot.

What, like "work harder or we'll execute the lot of you"?

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If I'm not mistaken she has been in charge of Google Local for a while. This is an awful, awful product. Buggy as hell, ugly, and absolutely no inspiration or cleverness anywhere to be found. If that product was truly her responsibility, God help Yahoo.

She was in charge of Geo, which is a broad product area that includes Maps, Earth, Local, Street View, Maps for Mobile, Zagat, etc. Local may suck, but most people think Maps is pretty good.

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see the video for the answer

I saw the video. It seems a very silly thing to do -- ever since I first saw that video I've been trying to understand Crockford's angle, and I just cannot. However, feronull seems in favour of it, so I'd like to know why. Forking a project isn't a healthy thing to do, unless there's something seriously wrong with the existing community (e.g. XFree86). As far as I can tell: * The nodejs community is healthy and vibra…

> Forking a project isn't a healthy thing to do, unless there's something seriously wrong with the existing community

Or you have goals which are substantially different from the goals of the original project.

Lets not forget that parts of Android are 'forked' from Linux (and were later merged back).

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You overestimate the downside of a reputation hit. The business world loves failures, and in fact it promotes them as people experienced with problems.

Look at the previous CEOs of Yahoo. Even excluding Scott Thompson (who lied on his resume) NONE of them have even held executive positions, or done anything significant in the business world. It doesn't seem like people forgave them just because Yahoo is a horrible mess.

You mean, since leaving Yahoo? In that case you're probably right. Carol Bartz did great things for Autodesk.

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From the description, her behavior reminds me a lot of how Steve Jobs behaved. If you read the biography, Jobs would often contradict himself, he was extremely rude, he would cry at meetings, he would hear an idea and say it was shit, and then the next week propose the exact same idea as his own, etc. I'm not saying she is at all comparable to Steve Jobs, but it sounds like they both know what they want, and don't sp…

A lot of people are assholes. That doesn't mean they are like Steve Jobs. That description of her didn't include a single word saying anything positive about how she did her job. No description of Jobs of similar length, regardless of how much the writer hated him, would have failed to mention that Jobs also had many positive qualities.

In fairness, when Jobs was Meyer's age he was mostly regarded as a wild eyed dreamer who lost the computer wars. He was fortunate to get a second act at Apple (which looked very seriously at Be instead of Next).

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post #203

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A lot of people are assholes. That doesn't mean they are like Steve Jobs. That description of her didn't include a single word saying anything positive about how she did her job. No description of Jobs of similar length, regardless of how much the writer hated him, would have failed to mention that Jobs also had many positive qualities.

In fairness, when Jobs was Meyer's age he was mostly regarded as a wild eyed dreamer who lost the computer wars. He was fortunate to get a second act at Apple (which looked very seriously at Be instead of Next).

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Re: Google’s Marissa Mayer Tapped as Yahoo’s Chief

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see the video for the answer

I saw the video. It seems a very silly thing to do -- ever since I first saw that video I've been trying to understand Crockford's angle, and I just cannot. However, feronull seems in favour of it, so I'd like to know why. Forking a project isn't a healthy thing to do, unless there's something seriously wrong with the existing community (e.g. XFree86). As far as I can tell: * The nodejs community is healthy and vibra…

Wow, I think that might be highest compliment I've ever been paid -- thank you! And though I am now clearly biased by your generous assessment of Joyent engineering and of me personally, I believe that your other comments are (of course?) spot-on. For whatever it's worth, we reached out to Crock to see if we could dissect whatever wasp had crawled into his underwear, but (no surprise) we were met with deafening silence. Even assuming that his was an entirely emotional response to some perceived slight in the distant past, we still have no idea what he's talking about. If anyone knows what he was referring to when he called our stewardship "amateurish", please, enlighten us!
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