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Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by hooverd »

trustinmenowpls wrote: post #256
mcphage wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it does censor idea that don’t align with their world view. They do it even more now than they did before; the only difference is now they claim they don’t. And it continues to run, but not well. The nice thing about the kind of site it is, is that if you don’t see a particular message, you can’t tell it’s missing.

idk, I specifically go to twitter for my political fix and when I go to the for you section I see a ton of liberal stuff and a ton of conservative stuff, many posts are unhinged in either direction. Others are more moderate, in general I don't really follow any political accounts, and yet I see a many posts that give me a great view of the zeitgeist for each side.

Eh, post Musk I see may more straight-up StormFront shit from "verified" posters.

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Post by tylerchilds »

thekevan wrote: post #121

I still feel that an enormous amount of why threads shows up in data analytics is because Instagram just added it on and made an account for everyone. It wasn't adopted, it was falsely created. I'd go even further to say that it isn't a social network, it's an add-on to another social network.

100%.

i wouldn’t say falsely created, but i would say “padded statistics”

threads is beholden to KPIs unlike every other activity pub implementation

their team obviously wants to be successful to continue developing against activity pub

their metrics are akin to a company bragging about how much software they’ve written with the assistance of AI

threads was able to approximate how many instagram users wished they had twitter in the same way intellisense is able to provide auto complete for dot notation; as a magician, i spot the misdirection for investors

Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by tylerchilds »

paxys wrote: post #257
NoahKAndrews wrote: post #253

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You can use your domain as a handle, so apple.bsky.social is likely to be a fake, as the real Apple would have the account apple.com. Certainly you could fool some users, but it's not like Apple would want apple.bsky.social to use as their actual account.

Sure but if you are Jim you'd want to register jim.bsky.social, regardless of whether you intend to use the service or not.

that would defeat the purpose of a decentralized network if only one person was jim, jim.

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Post by afavour »

potamic wrote: post #255
afavour wrote: post #186

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> Bluesky will inevitably follow the same path of enshittification Why do you say that? Bluesky is a protocol-first non profit. To my knowledge no company set up that way has achieved this level of success before. They don’t have the same motivations to enshittify that other networks do.

How is a company that has received investments, a non-profit? Those investors will require returns, which means the primary objective must be profit. Otherwise they would have just asked for donations.

> Those investors will require returns, which means the primary objective must be profit

It doesn’t mean that has to be the primary objective, just that at some point it should happen.

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Post by slater »

elphinstone wrote: post #258

Where's Google's Twitter clone? It can have AI nobody wants, a bland name nobody will remember, and be quietly sunsetted when nobody uses it.

Can't help you on the first item there, but everything else:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaiku

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Post by vohk »

lone_onion wrote: post #154
anon7000 wrote: post #117

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Added to that is user choice over moderation and algorithms. That’s what’s truly interesting about BlueSky. It allows for side A and B to both exist, with people who want to be more isolated in a safe space (so to speak) to do so. That’s a really great property. If I want to engage with content I severely disagree with, I can put it in a feed I check infrequently so that it doesn’t impact my life. Humans aren’t good…

I've just started using Bluesky. How does it compare to Reddit? There are dedicated subreddits for the conservatives and the liberals, and every subreddit has moderation rules. I use the right and left-focused subreddits to keep track of what's going on in different universes. However, I must mention that you won't find a reasonable discussion of left vs right ideologies on the main sub-reddits, as Reddit users are p…

Bluesky is a lot more like old, early algorithm twitter.

Reddit is a cluster of independently operated communities that occasionally get signal blasted onto the main feed. The top moderator of a subreddit owns it and sets any standard they like.

With Bluesky there are no defined communities outside of collective engagement with particular topics or hashtags or networks of follows. There is also a "Show me [more/less] of this" button every post, and so far it seems like the platform is pretty solid at respecting your preferences. They also seem to be actively moderating the really open bad behaviour off the platform.

I don't think Bluesky is as good as a well-moderated subreddit for long form discussion, but if you spend a little time curating your feed I think you might enjoy it.

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Post by protocolture »

hughesjj wrote: post #143
thekevan wrote: post #121

I still feel that an enormous amount of why threads shows up in data analytics is because Instagram just added it on and made an account for everyone. It wasn't adopted, it was falsely created. I'd go even further to say that it isn't a social network, it's an add-on to another social network.

It reminds me of google plus. Technically better than the existing top dog, but the forced migration and trying to bootstrap with a huge but only semi involved userbase let it fizzle soon after the start. Has there ever been a successful case of bootstrapping a new social media product with an existing userbase? Like not just added features or merging two together.

Well Facebook bootstrapped using the MySpace userbase.

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Post by sapphicsnail »

mlboss wrote: post #140
madeofpalk wrote: post #70

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I know I'm falling for the bait, but saying X is some last bastion of free speech is baffling, considering it's actual actions. Why do the remaining posters keep self-censoring "Blues*y"?

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You literally can't say cis on X anymore without your engagement getting nuked. Are they going to punish people for saying straight next?

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Post by protocolture »

llm_trw wrote: post #200
jrflowers wrote: post #133

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While “the left” in the US is incredibly nebulous, largely composed of groups and people that rarely agree on nearly anything at all, let alone a literary style, this recent article(1) about Bluesky has an eloquent description of “the right” when it comes to online spaces. > Liberals and the left do not need the right to be online in the way that the right needs liberals and the left. The nature of reactionary politi…

>Liberals and the left do not need the right to be online in the way that the right needs liberals and the left This is quite ironic considering that the last 8 years 'Liberals on the left' have done nothing but react to whatever Trump was doing that day. >The assumption that strangers on the internet are interested in or obligated to engage with “debate me bro”-style theatrics any time a person feels like summoning…

>This is quite ironic considering that the last 8 years 'Liberals on the left' have done nothing but react to whatever Trump was doing that day.

No thats literally his point? Trump doesn't provide good interesting politics. Trump makes liberals angry, thats the product. Most of his policy positions are there to generate liberals talking about how his policies are bullshit. If he was suddenly unable to engage with liberals he wouldnt be able to hold right wing interest at all.

The one shot copmala had was to run the most crazy batshit circus of a campaign possible. Free Ponies, Killer clowns, whatever. Keep trump out of the news, and you would break the cycle.

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Post by praisewhitey »

cryptica wrote: post #197

I refuse to use Bluesky because it is clearly being pushed on the masses, in collusion with mainstream media, as an alternative to X. Clearly another attempt by certain people to control information. It's shocking how people fall for this stuff over and over again. I hope if backfires, mostly draws in users from existing speech-unfriendly platforms and then the number of social media platforms will multiply from here…

>It's a matter of time before large corporations start preventing their employees from using non-approved platforms. They'll probably use cybersecurity safety as an excuse.

Already happened with TikTok.

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