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My Time Working at Stripe

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Re: My Time Working at Stripe

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The stereotypical brogrammer hazing interview at the start kinda foreshadowed everything else.

When you see that a company is playing games in an interview, the questions are what other forms will the doofus/jerky culture take if you join, and how will it affect you.

Re: My Time Working at Stripe

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post #261

The stereotypical brogrammer hazing interview at the start kinda foreshadowed everything else. When you see that a company is playing games in an interview, the questions are what other forms will the doofus/jerky culture take if you join, and how will it affect you.

What kind of games are you referring to? The interview seemed standard to me.

Re: My Time Working at Stripe

#263
The bigger lesson is that no company in the world (except maybe your own) should trigger so much emotional involvement from day one.

With time you learn to put everything in perspective.

I am worried that the author did not learn that lesson in the end since he quit with no job behind, which is not a sign of emotional stability.

Re: My Time Working at Stripe

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post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Post: "If you’re comfortable, I’d like us to try and be 10% more vulnerable" This comment: "I'd rather not have my manager forcing me to do group therapy." How did "if you’re comfortable" become "forcing me", and "try and be 10% more vulnerable" become "group therapy"?

A suggestion like that can some across as not optional. See the famous “wear bling” scene in Office Space.

“Pieces of flair”

Re: My Time Working at Stripe

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post #118

Sorry for a probably unpopular opinion here, and let me generalize a bit: Gen Z all the way... (Saying this makes me feel a bit old, I guess I'm certainly am than the author). On a serious note, in my book there are hints of perfectionism right from the start of the story (fonts dimming, wait 30 sec to join the meeting..). And too much fragility in personal attidudes. S/he is probably a relatively young idealistic pe…

No need to generalize, or assume. > I’d already had a successful career as a software engineer for the better part of a decade. OP's resume suggests they've been a professional engineer for over a decade. I agree with your points about perfectionism and idealism, but they are not isolated to Gen Z.

"Better part of a decade" means "more than half a decade", so definitely not a decade yet

Re: My Time Working at Stripe

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I think the author had unrealistic expectations from working at a large company. He expected doing something meaningful that will change the world. He expected to be applauded like a hero for his efforts. But things don't work like that. If you work your ass out, don't expect more than a pat on the back. Managers won't care about your efforts, your mental state or your sleepless nights. They care about looking good i…

My big company strategy is to troll internal chats/forums for things that seem like interesting problems. Do something to fix them or make them suck a little less.

Always be building solid, interesting things and make sure that if someone, for some reason finds them, that they would say "wow, this is cool, who made this?"

Then I casually share links to those things in the right context. If I get a 10% hit rate then I'm happy.

Do this all day every day between assigned projects 9-5 and you'd be amazed at the network you can build outside your own team. Keeps the options open for lateral movement.

Re: My Time Working at Stripe

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> motivated more by my work being MEANINGFUL Do you have any guiding star for what work gives you meaning? I thought getting closer to the users/customers would help me. After all, software is for humans. But I found the social aspects of that, handling bugs, setting expectations for features, was tiresome and not meaningful. The only happiness I did find was when I saw my client/users flourish without me with the so…

Work satisfaction is a meme. Yes, there are people satisfied with their work, but realistically, this is not going to happen to you. Stop giving a fuck about your work, slack off as much as possible, and look for coworkers with whom you can build real human connection, instead of corporate NPCs.

How is making this human connection w/ coworkers done remotely? Is it possible? I'm struggling with that.

Is it reasonable to accept/leave a job based on no interesting connections?

Re: My Time Working at Stripe

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post #118

Sorry for a probably unpopular opinion here, and let me generalize a bit: Gen Z all the way... (Saying this makes me feel a bit old, I guess I'm certainly am than the author). On a serious note, in my book there are hints of perfectionism right from the start of the story (fonts dimming, wait 30 sec to join the meeting..). And too much fragility in personal attidudes. S/he is probably a relatively young idealistic pe…

The author appears to be solidly millenial from their resume.

As an Elder Millennial myself I hope HN and our industry is free of ageism against young and old. Comments like yours don’t help.

Re: My Time Working at Stripe

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post #230
post #118

Sorry for a probably unpopular opinion here, and let me generalize a bit: Gen Z all the way... (Saying this makes me feel a bit old, I guess I'm certainly am than the author). On a serious note, in my book there are hints of perfectionism right from the start of the story (fonts dimming, wait 30 sec to join the meeting..). And too much fragility in personal attidudes. S/he is probably a relatively young idealistic pe…

Put yourself in their shoes. They idolized a company that is known for top-shelf engineering talent and, more importantly, brutally hard interviews...and they just got an opportunity to interview with them. You have no idea what the interviewee will "no hire" them over, so you assume they want perfection because obviously. You're deathly afraid of making any mistakes because not getting the job you've been dreaming a…

I cannot understand how anyone gets past 5 years old while still being this fragile as to think any of this you just said.

Everyone has some of these feelings but it's just a feeling like 10% of your mind not 100%. WTF idolizes a company? That is just wrong. Who raised someone to let them even think like that?

Re: My Time Working at Stripe

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post #92

There's a lot of comments on the "10% more vulnerable" part of the post in here that amount to "I just owe the company work hours, and they owe me money", and a strong aversion to showing anything resembling human connection going slightly further than "how are you", "fine". One commented even called the question by the manager "abuse", and suggested the manager should be fired. But if on most days we're spending mos…

There's a power differential when management suggests you do something. Even if they genuinely, 100% for real would not care if you didn't share, the power balance is still at play there, which makes it dicey regardless of anything else. I actually like my manager, he's a chill guy and I've had some deep talks with him a few times (after work hours!), but if he pulled a stunt like this during work hours I'd 100% tell…

The goal with any of these icebreakers is to encourage the team to be humble and approach work related problems in a thoughtful manner.

It's easy for someone to assume you are asked to open up about non-work related stories, but it's never the intention. For example, talking about how your Aunt passing away being the reason you got into software engineering, is not really going to help the team in any meaningful way.

However, it is quite valuable to share a story about how a coworker left you a huge unfinished project before abruptly going on vacation, and how you struggled to pick up the slack. You can use that story about the pain and frustration you felt and how you learned the value of having your work in a proper hand-off state when you eventually plan to take extended time away.

Don't ever feel like you need to talk about your hobbies, or family, or even your love of cats or dogs. In time you will build your work friends and connect with people who share some your interests, but it will never be forced, and a few of them may become lifelong friends.

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