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Re: Quit Social Media (2016)

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Post by tiznow »

llm_trw wrote: post #251
ryandv wrote: post #108

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Sure. Chomsky et al continue in the cited chapter, In addition to discrimination against unfriendly media institutions, advertisers also choose selectively among programs on the basis of their own principles. With rare exceptions these are culturally and politically conservative. There are two options; either Chomsky et al are incorrect in their assertion, or they are correct. If they are incorrect, then non-conserva…

LGBT rights have been enshrined in US law for over a decade now. It's time to wake up to the fact that being LGBT friendly is the conservative position. This may come as a shock to people who were cutting edge radicals in their youth in the 1990s - a decade that is now 30 years in the past.

lol, please

Re: Quit Social Media (2016)

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Post by goosejuice »

nytesky wrote: post #246
goosejuice wrote: post #166

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Unfortunately, it can be worth it. Having a social media audience can be very valuable to entrepreneurs. Someone who lives online with a personal brand can replace tens of thousands of dollars in ad spend with a single tweet. As someone who hasn't had a social media presence for most of my adult life, and happy about that, I'm now seeing the downsides. I don't have Ivy League connections like some of my peers. Social…

Just an FYI going to an Ivy doesn’t cultivate that network in most cases; you need to come from the right background and have some spending money to keep up with the lifestyle (ski trips, Broadway musicals, etc). In that way social network is more meritocratic, as many people have come from very humble backgrounds and succeeded with skill and charisma.

It's an opportunity to meet people who have a higher likelihood of successful careers, who in turn also know many successful people. That makes getting meetings and fundraising much easier.

I simply wasn't able to meet those kinds of people as a mid 20s person transferring to a commuter university from a community college.

Existing wealth likely helps, but even the poor kids with scholarships have better outcomes at those universities.

Re: Quit Social Media (2016)

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Post by Kye »

immibis wrote: post #259
Kye wrote: post #146

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What do you mean? It's federated now.

Source? From everything I've read, BlueSky made a theoretically federated protocol, pulled millions of users onto its single central instance, then refused to enable federation in any meaningful way, so you're either on the central instance or you're effectively on some other platform that is separate from BlueSky and is shit. (Meanwhile on Mastodon, there are so many instances and no clear center - not even mastodon…

I don't know what you've read, but:

https://atproto.com/guides/self-hosting

https://atproto.com/guides/applications

https://github.com/bluesky-social

It's all there. Bluesky itself is split into tens of instances and has been since last year. A few people even run their own relays. Your information is very out of date.

Re: Quit Social Media (2016)

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Post by wendigothere »

nickburns wrote: post #200
oohlolly wrote: post #192

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Only long enough to disperse a particular mind virus. STEM degrees and 20+ years in Eng; hardware then software This community isn’t really peddling anything that hasn’t been done before; just like the story mode politics and economics often complained about What’s that? You have a new state manager or a machine and some math euphemisms that translate cleanly to other math objects known for a century? WOW! …There’s n…

Bruh... it's Friday. And this is a post about social media participation. Not your existential waxing. You don't see any irony whatsoever in what you're spouting?

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Re: Quit Social Media (2016)

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Post by nicbou »

fumblebee wrote: post #144
noufalibrahim wrote: post #76

It's very enlightening to fast from social media for an extended period of time (say about a month). If you return after that, you can almost feel the shift in your head. It's something I've experienced first hand.

As someone who’s strongly considering just this, could you describe the changes you felt? And — if you again returned to social media for a prolonged period — whether and how quickly those positive changes reverted?

I have pretty much quit Reddit. It didn’t completely change my life, but it was a good thing.

Not getting involved in internet drama is great. I have completely lost the appetite for it. I haven’t heard about American politics for a while. I read and sketch more. My phone is easier to put down and less tempting to pick up; it gets boring quickly. I noticed that I’ll often be the last one to look at my phone when I am around others.

I spend a lot more time in the real world, touching grass. I’d say that this is the cause of my departure, not the effect. Online interactions are not nearly as satisfying.

Being out of it and staying out of it means that you don’t know about the local internet drama, and that you don’t get any notifications from that site. With each visit, the website gets less interesting because nothing interesting is waiting for you there.

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Post by permo-w »

keiferski wrote: post #145
permo-w wrote: post #138

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you mean archive.is?

No, I meant archive.org's wayback machine, but there are other tools out there with the same function. https://web.archive.org

I think you may be a little confused. most people, particularly on HN, use archive.is for this purpose.

for example this comment on the current top post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41961894

in fact I don't think I've ever seen archive.org used to jump paywalls. it's not designed for it

Re: Quit Social Media (2016)

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Post by noufalibrahim »

fumblebee wrote: post #144
noufalibrahim wrote: post #76

It's very enlightening to fast from social media for an extended period of time (say about a month). If you return after that, you can almost feel the shift in your head. It's something I've experienced first hand.

As someone who’s strongly considering just this, could you describe the changes you felt? And — if you again returned to social media for a prolonged period — whether and how quickly those positive changes reverted?

My poison of choice was Twitter. I doomscroll, RT stuff which I "identified with", shit post etc. I can't completely describe the feelings since they were subtle but I'll try.

1. I used to have a fear of missing out on what's happening if I didn't stay upto date on Twitter. That went away. I was pretty upto date using HN and Google news. That fear went away. I announced before I went offline so when someone tagged me, some friends actually told them that I'd be away.

2. I used to take out my phone when I was bored or waiting for something and then scroll through making me jittery and anxious. That went away. I did it automatically but finding the site logged out of during that time just made me go back to being bored.

3. There was a state of mind. I'd say it was similar to the stereotypical "drooling in front of a TV" stereotype when I'm doom scrolling. Shortening temper, needless urgency, snapping when people interrupt my "flow". I get back into it every time I opened the site. I slipped out of this and when I then logged back in after a month, I could feel it pulling me back into that state of mind. I didn't explicitly track things but I quickly fell back into my old habits.

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Post by interludead »

Minor49er wrote: post #216
interludead wrote: post #205

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HN might seem more focused and professional than typical social media, but it fosters a community and interactions

How does it foster a community? I don't think I've connected with anyone on here beyond a single thread in the few years I've been around, and I consider myself a typical user Not looking for a fight or anything. I'm just curious about different perspectives and definitions of social media. The responses so far have been interesting

I get that it may not feel as connected as other social platforms, but for me, it’s a place where people genuinely want to learn from each other

Re: Quit Social Media (2016)

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Post by interludead »

llamaimperative wrote: post #243
Minor49er wrote: post #236

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Then wouldn't public access TV, call-in radio shows, or the news be social media as well since they typically involve many-to-many interactions? Or is there more to it?

Sure. It's probably more helpful to think of this (like almost all things) on a spectrum. HN is definitely on the social media end of the spectrum. For example, all your listed examples have very hands-on and comprehensive, opinionated editorial control. HN has moderation, but not really editorial control per se.

Viewing it as a spectrum makes a lot of sense.

Re: Quit Social Media (2016)

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Post by motbus3 »

watwut wrote: post #85
kikokikokiko wrote: post #56

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If the company you work for REALLY does behave like that, you SHOULD DEFINITELY advertise it. Companies like this must be acknowledged and celebrated. The owner must be a really good person.

I think that big issue there might just be that infinite reoccurring payments for cooking app is just not something reasonable for most people to set up. People likely prefer to not have a cooking app over paying regularly for it and it is actually reasonable decision.

That's the challenge. But at the same time, it costs like 1 usd/month if you get a holiday promotion and maybe 2/mon if full price. I know subscriptions and to the end of the month but there is no ad, no tracking, no personal stuff sold anywhere...

Advertising is a facade industry for companies who tracks and sell your data. They gather info wether you have healthy habits, if you watch adult stuff, if drive well or if you need money and then sell that data for someone who will use to personalize prices to extract as much from you as they can.

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