The issue I continue to have with many AI coding tools is they want me to use their own editor ("native", aka VSCode fork, or in the browser like this). I have zero intention of moving away from IDEA and nothing I've seen so far is good enough to make me want to switch. I really with there was more of "bringing AI into your existing tools/workflows" instead of "here is a new tool with AI baked in".
Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
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Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#262Mixed feelings about this: clearly this is meant to match one of the killer features of Claude. I like using Claude, and I'm also a big supporter of Anthropic - not just because it's an underdog, but due to its responsible and ethical corporate governance model[1], which stands in stark contrast to OpenAI. It's worrying to see ChatGPT close one of the gaps between it and Claude. [1] https://www.anthropic.com/news/the…
Trying to delude oneself that company A is superior morally to company B without a very clear distinction between incentive structures (eg A makes money from causing pollution, B sells widgets for cleaning up pollution), which is not the case with these companies, is magical thinking.
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
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Agreed on the principle (using the better product) but interestingly I've had the opposite experience when comparing Claude 3.5 Sonnet vs GPT 4o. Claude's been far and away superior on coding tasks. What have you been testing for?
I have a friend who has ZERO background in coding and he's basically built a SaaS app from the ground up using Replit and it's integration with Claude. Backend is Supabase, auth done with Firebase, and includes Stripe integration and he's live with actual paying customers in maybe 2 weeks time. He showed me his workflow and the prompts he uses and it's pretty amazing how much he's been able to do with very little tec…
My next step is to ask it to rewrite the iOS app into an Android app when I have a block of time to sit down and work through it.
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#264The issue I continue to have with many AI coding tools is they want me to use their own editor ("native", aka VSCode fork, or in the browser like this). I have zero intention of moving away from IDEA and nothing I've seen so far is good enough to make me want to switch. I really with there was more of "bringing AI into your existing tools/workflows" instead of "here is a new tool with AI baked in".
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
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Aw thanks! I at least have the benefit of being a fluent writer. For lots of East Asian researchers it's really embarrassing for them to send an email riddled with typos, so they spend a LOT of time making their emails nice. I like that tools like this can lift their burden
> For lots of East Asian researchers it's really embarrassing for them to send an email riddled with typos, so they spend a LOT of time making their emails nice. OK -- I can see this. But I think Grammarly would be better than this.
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#266Do they not understand that the example text they are using in the first image is so laughably banal that it makes an entire segment of its potential audience not want to engage at all? Shoot me in the face if my own writing is ever that bad. ETA: just to be clear... I am not a great writer. Or a bad one. But this is a particular kind of bad . The kind we should all try to avoid.
> Do they not understand I see this all the time from AI boosters. Flashy presentation, and it seems like it worked! But if you actually stare at the result for a moment, it’s mediocre at best. Part of the issue is that people who are experts at creating ML models aren’t experts at all the downstream tasks those models are asked to do. So if you ask it to “write a poem about pizza” as long as it generally fits the de…
Yep. CAD, music, poetry, comedy. Same pattern in each.
But it's more than not being experts: it's about a subliminal belief that there either isn't much to be expert in or a denial of the value of that expertise, like if what they do can be replicated by a neural network trained on the description, is it even expertise?
Unavoidably, all of this stuff is about allowing people to do, with software, tasks they would otherwise need experts for.
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
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Cursor was one of the first AI editors I used, but recently Aider has completely replaced the AI assisted coding for me. I still use cursor but just as an editor, all LLM work is done with aider in the shell.
Do you mind elaborating on your setup and workflow? I tried using aider but either my local LLM is too slow or my software projects requires context sizes so large they make aider move at a crawl.
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#268Mixed feelings about this: clearly this is meant to match one of the killer features of Claude. I like using Claude, and I'm also a big supporter of Anthropic - not just because it's an underdog, but due to its responsible and ethical corporate governance model[1], which stands in stark contrast to OpenAI. It's worrying to see ChatGPT close one of the gaps between it and Claude. [1] https://www.anthropic.com/news/the…
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#269Slick interface but the example they gave is depressing. We taught the model to open a canvas for prompts like “Write a blog post about the history of coffee beans”. If you're not heavily editing this post to say something genuinely new, then congratulations you've added even more drivel to the Great Pacific Garbage Patch of the internet.
Some people really think that they are now "content writers" with ChatGPT, just as those spitting out sort-of-working scripts think they are "software engineers". I am sorry, dears, but this is not how it works. To be good at any of this, you should be able to do it yourself without any "prompt engineering", and the only path is through work, time, trial/error, and tons of frustration.
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#270Mixed feelings about this: clearly this is meant to match one of the killer features of Claude. I like using Claude, and I'm also a big supporter of Anthropic - not just because it's an underdog, but due to its responsible and ethical corporate governance model[1], which stands in stark contrast to OpenAI. It's worrying to see ChatGPT close one of the gaps between it and Claude. [1] https://www.anthropic.com/news/the…
As much as I want to like Claude, it sucks in comparison to ChatGPT in every way I've tested, and I'm going to use the better product. As a consumer, the governance model only results in an inferior product that produces way more refusals for basic tasks.