Nexus 7, Made for Google Play • Hacker News Board

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by berntb » Thu, Jun 28, 2012, 8:22 AM UTC

rsanchez1 wrote: post #259

btipling wrote: post #25

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Tablets are expensive. I cannot afford to buy a tablet every year. So I want a tablet that is future proof. The 10 inch tablets that others will release this year will have an outdated operating system on them and will still cost many hundreds of dollars. I do not want to spend hundreds of dollars on an outdated operating system. I love Android, but this terrible to the extreme.

Maybe iPads are expensive, but the Nexus 7 is reasonably priced for the specs and features.

I hope your eyes are much better than mine; good luck reading A4 documents on 7". :-(

I got an iPad 3, it is like reading eInk with fast page changes, so I can browse documentation and not only read literature (cough, out of sunlight of course).

(I'm a bit color blind, so I don't really care that much about the good graphics and color reproduction :-) )

I'd pay good money for a 2-3" larger iPad 3.

Edit: If it wasn't clear -- if you want to read real documents that can't be reflowed, it might have 0 value for the money for you (unless your eyes are < 35 years old.)

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by crocowhile » Thu, Jun 28, 2012, 9:03 AM UTC

warfangle wrote: post #127

jamesaguilar wrote: post #35

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I love that people accuse Apple of planned obsolescence in the phone market when Google releases operating systems that don't even work on devices that came out in the current year.

"don't even work on other companies devices that they have no control over " Fixed that for you. The Nexus (minus the G1) line of phones gets regular updates - my old Nexus One was always updated within a few weeks of a new version of android coming out. If you want updated OS software on your phone, be smart about which droid phone you get. Ain't goog's fault Samsung won't allow updates to Phone #4123.

Wut? Nexus One is not getting ICS.

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by rplnt » Thu, Jun 28, 2012, 9:33 AM UTC

jonny_eh wrote: post #142

gte910h wrote: post #98

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While I'm all over you getting an iPad (I'm primarily an iOS dev), the Nexus line of phones, other than the G1, have shown markedly more updatability than the run of the mill random crapware phones you get for free by doing X or Y. Perhaps you'll get a few years of updates out of it?

The OP wants a 10" tablet, which Google's not making. He's saying that if he buys a Samsung produced Jelly Bean 10" tablet, it won't be future proof.

What is future proof exactly? While updates matter, how it's bad not to have them? It's like saying you don't like the Android (that's fine) and you will like the next one (that's weird).

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by rimantas » Thu, Jun 28, 2012, 9:37 AM UTC

will_work4tears wrote: post #193

tedunangst wrote: post #167

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Which is better, two 20WHr batteries or one 40WHr battery?

Two twenties, because after a few months, I have two 15s and you have a twenty. Batteries never seem to fully charge like the used to. My wife has a iPhone (the 4s or something) and still has to charge hers more than I do (Samsung Galaxy II). Not a whole lot different, but instead of her being tied to the outlet, I can pull my battery out, put in the new one and keep going. That kind of convenience is worth everythin…

Apple batteries last much longer than a year. My first iPhone was 3G model and after changing hands three times and three and a half years later it still goes strong. Also you are never tied to the outlet with iPhone — battery easily lasts a day even under heavily usage, so you can just plug it in for the night. And for most people convenience is not to have to carry spare batteries. I never so a person who did that — it is extremely rare preference. Apple is done with replaceable batteries, expect others go the same way.

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by rplnt » Thu, Jun 28, 2012, 9:37 AM UTC

why-el wrote: post #44

ivanbernat wrote: post #10

> Sorry! Devices on Google Play is not available in your country yet. At least show me what it looks like!

Was exactly what I thought. I know its a google search away but at least show me specs/pictures so that I know whether to wait few weeks or just get your-competitor's tablet.

I'm pretty sure the price will be at least $400 in my region. So the super low price factor won't help me. Other thing is most of the new play content (music, movies, tv series and magazines at the minimum) won't work here as well.

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by lmm » Thu, Jun 28, 2012, 10:30 AM UTC

ajross wrote: post #224

cheeze wrote: post #218

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My grandmother and parents all have iPads. No, they wouldn't be able to download an app unless it was blatantly obvious (see: app store).

That seems to be getting pretty far off into silly now, though. Your contention is that grandparents with iOS devices can download apps (and presumably view media) there, but not on Android, precisely because the "app store" is called "Play Store". Really? Is there any research at all that bears this out?

It's not silly. Even as a fairly serious tech guy, the first time I saw "play store" I thought "what the fuck is a play store?" (and, half an hour earlier, "where the fuck did the market go?"). Because I'm a tech guy I have the confidence to click random things and see what they do (plus I could put two and two together in this case), but I'm pretty sure my parents wouldn't; they'd just stay away from the strange icons, and stick to the ones they recognize, like youtube and browser.

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by lmm » Thu, Jun 28, 2012, 10:35 AM UTC

donniezazen wrote: post #155

Do any of you use a 7 inch tablet as a distraction-free writing device? I have got a 10.1 tablet that I use for reading and writing. A smaller tablet will be more friendlier for reading.

I use my 10-inch transformer as a writing device, if by writing you mean typing (I wrote a novel on it, if by novel you mean 50000 word work of prose fiction). Honestly I think the "distraction-free" aspect works against it - forcing me to move out of google docs and into something else to check train times or skype messages makes me less productive, not more. But ymmv.

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by lmm » Thu, Jun 28, 2012, 10:37 AM UTC

deedubaya wrote: post #115

"I've already taken it on a camping trip to read books" What a bunch of nerds. Tell me about something exciting you actually did with your new product.

I took it out clubbing to take photos of my friends puking, that cool enough for you?

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by kylec » Thu, Jun 28, 2012, 12:15 PM UTC

jsz0 wrote: post #243

pook1e wrote: post #110

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I fail to see your argument. The original iPad launched two years ago, and will not be getting iOS 6 because it is "too old".

Personally I don't give Apple a free pass for not being able to update the original iPad to iOS6. They low-balled the RAM presumably to keep costs under control and now users are going to suffer for it. Delivering one major OS update is better than most of their competition but still not good enough.

Actually, they delivered two - it shipped with iOS 3.2 and has been supported with iOS 4 and 5. But I agree it's annoying that it's not supported with iOS 6, especially given that the 3GS has a slower processor and the same RAM and will be getting it.

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by greedo » Thu, Jun 28, 2012, 12:44 PM UTC

CraigRood wrote: post #210

greedo wrote: post #191

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Sure. Care to specify the "high-end" tablet you're buying for $200? I'm a bit skeptical. If you're claiming the Nexus 7, that's not in the class of the iPad nor the proposed Surface.

Not really sure what you mean by "not in the class of the iPad". For less than half the price you get more than half the performance. I don't think theres benchmarks out there yet but I don't think its fair to say that a Tegra 3 Quadcore is 'low-end'. It's on par with the A5& A5X technically.

I think counting cores (should be a band name) is a useful metric. By iPad class, I mean similar build quality, similar battery life, similar size, similar responsiveness.