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No, the hundreds of people who have worked on NNs prior to him arriving were the people who did the MOST actual research and work. Sam was in the right place at the right time.
Introducing Sam Altman, inventor of artificial intelligence! o_o
OpenAI to become for-profit company
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Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company
#262I know nothing about companies (esp. in the US), but I find it weird that a company can go from non-profit to for-profit? Surely this would be taken advantage of. Can someone explain me how this work?
At first, I thought, “Wow, if companies can start as nonprofits and later switch to for-profit, they’ll exploit the system.” But the more I learned about the chaos at OpenAI, the more I realized the opposite is true. Companies will steer clear of this kind of mess. The OpenAI story seems more like a warning than a blueprint. Why would any future company want to go down this path?
As OpenAI found its product-market fit, the early visionaries are not needed anymore (although I'm sure the people working there are still amazing)
Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company
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After the non-profit sells its assets, it would either donate the proceeds in a way that would be aligned with the original mission, or continue to exist as a bag of cash, basically.
It seems incredibly convenient that a non-profit's leaders can say "I want equity in a for-profit company, so we will sell our assets to investors (who will hire me) and pass off the proceeds to some other non-profit org run by some other schmuck. This is in the public interest."
Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company
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> Dismantling OpenAI is actually a business strategy for many other players now. Which ones exactly? NVIDIA is drinking sweet money from OpenAI. Microsoft & Apple are in cahoots with it. Meta/Facebook seems happy to compete with OpenAI on a fair playing field. Anthropic lacks the resources. Amazon doesn't seem to care. Google is asleep.
Google is asleep? Gemini is the product of a company that's asleep?
Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company
#265Hint: it won’t.
Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company
#266Can anybody explain how this actually works? What happens to all of the non-profit's assets? They can't just give it away for investors to own. The non-profit could maybe sell its assets to investors, but then what would it do with the money? I'm sure OpenAI has an explanation, but I really want to hear more details. In the most simple analysis of "non-profit becomes for-profit", there's really no way to square it ot…
If the assets were sold to the for profit at a fair price I could see this being legal (even if it shouldn't be). At least in that case the value generated by the non-profit tax free would stay locked up in non-profit land. The biggest problem with this is that there's basically no chance that the sale price of the non-profit assets is going to be $150 billion, which means that whatever the gap is between the valuati…
Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company
#267Can anybody explain how this actually works? What happens to all of the non-profit's assets? They can't just give it away for investors to own. The non-profit could maybe sell its assets to investors, but then what would it do with the money? I'm sure OpenAI has an explanation, but I really want to hear more details. In the most simple analysis of "non-profit becomes for-profit", there's really no way to square it ot…
Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company
#268Why were they a non-profit in the first case?
Why the h are they called "openAI" too? nothing is open for them but your own wallet.
Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company
#269Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company
#270Can anybody explain how this actually works? What happens to all of the non-profit's assets? They can't just give it away for investors to own. The non-profit could maybe sell its assets to investors, but then what would it do with the money? I'm sure OpenAI has an explanation, but I really want to hear more details. In the most simple analysis of "non-profit becomes for-profit", there's really no way to square it ot…