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What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Re: What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Post by mihaaly »

infecto wrote: post #250
mihaaly wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I Japan, with their obsession about cleanliness, I can imagine that those tablets are thorougly wiped between each customer. But not in other countries.

I am always interested in this perception. It is clean is some ways but unclean in others like handwashing after bathroom hygiene.

I am not aware of that aspect at all, but cleaning and cleanliness is in focus in general, from childhood, cities are more tidy even by look and the sight of the lady washing up (properly, with water, sponge, having a custom belt with containers for the tools and liquids used in the process) the sidewalk after cleaning up the poo of her dog is burnt into my retina.

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Post by dplgk »

globular-toast wrote: post #14
sschueller wrote: post #7

A guy went to prison for doing this with AT&Ts public subscriber data. The media didn't do him a favor by calling it a hack.

I almost got into big trouble at school for "hacking a teachers email". I guessed their email address (they were systematically generated) and sent an email. It's true you can get into trouble for this, but we need to all take it upon ourselves to make sure this doesn't happen. If this guy got into trouble I would hope every software engineer would be up in arms defending them.

My 8th grade computer class teacher yelled at me for hacking the computer because I was rearranging the icons on the desktop.

Re: What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Post by ryukoposting »

qnleigh wrote: post #83

> I would have thought about privately disclosing these findings to Dotpe. But all the API requests are right there in plain sight... There are pretty common ethical standards about disclosing vulnerabilities privately before disclosing them publicly. I don't see how the obviousness of the vulnerability changes the situation. By warning the company, you give them the opportunity to remedy the problem before announcin…

Well, the link leads to a 404 so it seems like the author has been convinced.

Re: What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Post by mondobe »

loa_in_ wrote: post #202
frereubu wrote: post #118

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My main beef with these menus is that I can't see the entire menu on my phone screen, and end up scrolling up and down multiple times before I can decide what I want to order. With a paper menu my eyes can flick up and down much faster. It's like trying to edit spreadsheets on a phone - technically possible but a real pain in the arse.

I find it absolutely annoying that our phones with amazing pixel density limit the max zoom out for some reason. If I want 5x8 font on my 1080p phone screen why not let me?

Plus, many restaurants have clickable pictures of each menu item. Even if the font isn't readable, you can still get an idea of what looks good.

Re: What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Post by mihaaly »

Wytwwww wrote: post #190
mihaaly wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I Japan, with their obsession about cleanliness, I can imagine that those tablets are thorougly wiped between each customer. But not in other countries.

Same would apply to paper menus, though? At least it's easier to notice on glossy tablet screens.

Good point, I'd only suspect harder to pick up residue from the porus paper than the smooth glass, and if the paper is made of wood then that is antiseptic by nature. It is true I seen paper menus I did not want to touch, it was replaced so long ago having sample of the food selection and the previous guest's choices on them plenty ... : ) At least some of those one paged ones work just by looking at them in contrast of touch devices mandating the tap and swipe to present things.

Re: What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Post by giarc »

rapnie wrote: post #13

> Is this what the peak ordering experience looks like? Call me old-fashioned, but to me the peak experience is a paper menu to choose from, and a waiter that patiently takes the order. Far prefer that to everyone at the table fiddling on their phones in some weird-ass website or even god forbid custom app.

The best implementation of QR code menu I've seen was as followed. There was a paper menu but could also order from QR. It was a well designed page to choose from, but the wait staff was still there and took order. We had the option to order from QR if we wanted. When they entered our order, the page (linked to our table through custom QR code) updated with our order. We could add items at any point or we could "call our wait staff" who would then come to our table. At any point we could just pay our bill and walk away. It was the same feeling of using an uber for the first time and just walking out of the car and not worrying about paying the driver.

Re: What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Post by AtNightWeCode »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #234
AtNightWeCode wrote: post #81

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Could be as simple as no auth in debug builds and then deployed it by accident.

I don't mean to pick on your comment, but to respond to a prior comment, you are beginning with a very positive world view and interpreting the events from there. Lazy API that did not vet a simple backdoor? Good coders but accidentally pushed the debug version of the API? I am going to have to say the second option feels less likely (yes, I have been called cynical).

Different confs in the same repo. Many CI/CD tools will pick debug/dev conf by default if nothing else is set.

It was just an example. Maybe they knew.

Re: What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Post by mcpeepants »

umbra07 wrote: post #146
globular-toast wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I almost got into big trouble at school for "hacking a teachers email". I guessed their email address (they were systematically generated) and sent an email. It's true you can get into trouble for this, but we need to all take it upon ourselves to make sure this doesn't happen. If this guy got into trouble I would hope every software engineer would be up in arms defending them.

you mean you guessed the systematically generated password, right?

> I guessed their email address [...] and sent an email

the old "HELO" hack

Re: What's inside the QR code menu at this cafe?

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Post by gloosx »

rapnie wrote: post #13

> Is this what the peak ordering experience looks like? Call me old-fashioned, but to me the peak experience is a paper menu to choose from, and a waiter that patiently takes the order. Far prefer that to everyone at the table fiddling on their phones in some weird-ass website or even god forbid custom app.

This is cheap restaurant experience, in good ones you always get the good old paper
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