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Gaining access to anyones Arc browser without them even visiting a website

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Re: Gaining access to anyones Arc browser without them even visiting a website

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> firestore has a tendency to not abide by the system proxy settings in the Swift SDK for firebase, so going off my hunch, i wrote a frida script to dump the relevant calls. As someone who has done some reverse engineering of macOS apps but haven't used anything beyond Charles' macOS proxy feature, this looks very painful. Is there a proxy app that maybe acts as a VPN so that basically every HTTP request is guarantee…

mitmproxy.org can act as a wireguard vpn iirc

Re: Gaining access to anyones Arc browser without them even visiting a website

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post #93

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I use it to indicate tone. Proper capitalization and punctuation reads with a formal, cold tone. lowercase without caps reads with a warmer, informal tone there’s a Tom Scott Language Files video documenting it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS4X1JfX6_Q

> lowercase without caps reads with a warmer, informal tone No, it reads as "I'm uneducated and don't know how to write the English language properly". It's incredibly obnoxious for people to use as an affectation.

Relax, buddy.

Re: Gaining access to anyones Arc browser without them even visiting a website

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post #132
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According to this article, Arc requires an account and sends Google's Firebase the hostname of every page you visit along with your user ID. Does this make Arc the least private web browser currently being used?

I trashed Arc immediately after install when I found out having an account was mandatory. That seemed so silly, like toothbrushes-requiring-wifi absurd. How much moreso now.

I did the same. Requiring an account for a browser is immediately disqualifying. I don't care how many features it has.

Re: Gaining access to anyones Arc browser without them even visiting a website

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post #181

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As someone with an app built on firebase, yes. As the author rightly points out, it's very easy to misconfigure, but basic security practices like these are highlighted in bright, bold warning text in the Firebase docs. Security rules are meant to be taken seriously, and it's your only line of defense.

> bold warning text in the Firebase docs. Unfortunately, we currently have an industry where highly paid "engineers" unironically believe that their job can be done by reading/watching random tutorials, googling for StackOverflow answers, and pasting code from gists. Attentively reading documentation or developing a mental model of how your tools work so that you know how they are built to be handled does not make it…

Sadly true, but Firestore has a security rules emulator and encourages you to write unit tests for it! There's just so many levels of "ignored all reasonable practices" here. Where's the code review? Where's the security/privacy audit?

Re: Gaining access to anyones Arc browser without them even visiting a website

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post #213

I’m Hursh, cofounder and CTO of The Browser Company (the company that makes Arc). Even though no users were affected and we patched it right away, the hypothetical depth of this vulnerability is unacceptable. We’ve written up some technical details and how we’ll improve in the future (including moving off Firebase and setting up a proper bug bounty program) here: https://arc.net/blog/CVE-2024-45489-incident-response…

Only $2k for an exploit like this?

Re: Gaining access to anyones Arc browser without them even visiting a website

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post #213

I’m Hursh, cofounder and CTO of The Browser Company (the company that makes Arc). Even though no users were affected and we patched it right away, the hypothetical depth of this vulnerability is unacceptable. We’ve written up some technical details and how we’ll improve in the future (including moving off Firebase and setting up a proper bug bounty program) here: https://arc.net/blog/CVE-2024-45489-incident-response…

Was the post written for HN users only? I cannot see it on your blog page ( https://arc.net/blog ). It’s not posted on your twitter either. Your whole handling seems to be responding only if there is enough noise about it.

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Re: Gaining access to anyones Arc browser without them even visiting a website

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post #243

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Reading/watching random tutorials and asking basic questions on SO __instead of reading the official docs__ is a trend I've observed for the last 10 years. Even for stuff pretty well documented like Python, Postgres, React, etc.

I often wonder how much this can be attributed to the pretty awful SEO of most documentation. I write mostly Python at work and it's infuriating how often GeeksForGeeks, W3Schools, Programiz, or RealPython pop up when I'm just trying to reference like, the arg order of a builtin, or the particular behavior. Django is worse, I often feel like I can't even find the doc when I know it's there and read it before.

Documentation is largely static content. It isn't their job to play SEO games to convince search engines to surface it in the query results. Documentation is not a revenue generator for Google so it gets buried below the sites with Doubleclick ads.

Re: Gaining access to anyones Arc browser without them even visiting a website

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post #198

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Nobody reads docs dude. They copy and paste stack overflow answers, and now, copilot answers, which is going to be based on stack overflow ultimately anyway.

Maybe docs should try to be consistently more accurate, up to date, and legible than (even) stack overflow answers ¯ \ _ ( ツ ) _ / ¯

None of that matters if it doesn't show up first or second in Google results.

Re: Gaining access to anyones Arc browser without them even visiting a website

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post #250

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Truly. I was looking for a privacy respecting Chromium-based browser to use for Web MiniDisc ( https://web.minidisc.wiki/ ) and came across some enthusiastic praise for Arc. I downloaded it and it immediately wanted me to create an account to even use it. How can that possibly respect my privacy? It went right in the trash.

What is also strange that I only found out about account after download. Like it was standard thing for the browser. (Sure there are optional accounts in others but login-walled browser?)

Windows is practically login-walled[0] at this point so I imagine people are slowly getting to expect it.

[0] witness the magic incantations needed https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/install-windows-11-witho...

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