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Re: macOS Sequoia Preview

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Post by lttlrck » Tue, Jun 11, 2024, 4:21 AM UTC

wiseowise wrote: post #73

wwalexander wrote: post #2

I never thought I’d see the day macOS would get tiling window management. Wonder how it will interact with Stage Manager if at all.

Finally Windows and Linux fanatics will shut up.

This isn't i3/sway

Re: macOS Sequoia Preview

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Post by freediver » Tue, Jun 11, 2024, 4:30 AM UTC

ksec wrote: post #217

Safari 18 no longer support Monterey. i.e MacBook Air before 2018 is no longer able to update. Not sure if there is anyway to get around this limitation. Unfortunately Safari seems to be tied to three macOS release support.

You can run latest WebKit as far as Catalina with Orion [1]

(disclaimer, one of those crazy devs still maintaining support for latest WebKit on older macOS versions)

[1] https://kagi.com/orion

Re: macOS Sequoia Preview

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Post by crazygringo » Tue, Jun 11, 2024, 4:40 AM UTC

nostrademons wrote: post #121

crazygringo wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's exactly what AirDrop is for. I think the commenter must just not know about it?

I know about AirDrop. I use it for small batches ( It fails completely for my use case, which is that every 6 months or so, I want to back up the 2000 or so pictures I've taken to a Samba share on a home server that I control. The closest equivalent would be iCloud, but I refuse to mortgage my family memories to vendor lock-in for a monthly fee.

AirDrop works with any number of files. I've used it for many hundreds of photos at a time; I don't see any reason why it would fail at 2,000.

And it's fairly easy to select all 2,000 files -- in your camera roll, tap Select at top right, then just start dragging from the first photo. This lets you select a range rather than tapping them individually, and just keep dragging at the bottom and it will keep selecting while scrolling downwards. 2,000 photos might take a minute or two to select, but it's not that bad. Then just AirDrop.

Obviously you'll then need to move them from your Mac's internal drive to your desired SMB share.

Re: macOS Sequoia Preview

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Post by charles_f » Tue, Jun 11, 2024, 5:02 AM UTC

> Tapback with any emoji or sticker

> Express yourself in more ways than ever.

This is quite an overselling of "allowing emojis as answers".

Re: macOS Sequoia Preview

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Post by hnaccount_rng » Tue, Jun 11, 2024, 5:15 AM UTC

goosedragons wrote: post #213

nativeit wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When did “Linux” settle on a single window manager? There have been 3rd-party solutions for Mac for years, I don’t understand what’s different about that versus Linux, which comes with nothing by default, not even a graphical interface.

Most desktop Linux distros come with one of the big DEs like Gnome or KDE by default. And those have had Window snapping since shortly after MS demoed it for Windows 7. How is this different from Mac OS? It's integrated into the DE, you don't need to install anything extra and it works like you'd expect. On Mac the third party options never felt quite native.

I get what you are saying, but for me nothing on Linux feels nativ. I'm still amazed that Apple has people who can announce window snapping and sound absolutely sincere when claiming that's a revolutionary new feature in the world. So.. I really get where you are coming from

Re: macOS Sequoia Preview

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Post by spartanatreyu » Tue, Jun 11, 2024, 5:20 AM UTC

aurareturn wrote: post #253

spartanatreyu wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've used Windows solely for gaming and MacOS solely for MacOS/iOS development (work). But now... - Windows is full of AI/Adware bloat with more getting added every few months - Linux's gaming/nvivia support has come such a long way that in some games it's beating Windows in some benchmarks now - Apple's app store policies over the last 10 years have caused so many issues that our company is switching everything to w…

You don’t have to use the App Store on MacOS.

No but if you want to distribute your app and hope to get any users at all then you need to sign/notarize your app then release it on the macos app store.

Re: macOS Sequoia Preview

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Post by inferiorhuman » Tue, Jun 11, 2024, 5:23 AM UTC

dmix wrote: post #205

This seems like one of the best MacOS release I can remember I hold Snow Leopard to high esteem still because it made everything faster and smoother.

Counterpoint: this is one of the most disappointing releases I've seen.

  I hold Snow Leopard to high esteem still because it made everything faster and smoother.

Well there's the rub. Snow Leopard was largely a bug fix release. Sonoma is atrocious. It is the buggiest release I've dealt with since the pre-Tiger days. You name it, it's broken. File sharing (both SMB and AFP are broken in different ways). Dtrace. Keyboard input. The atrociously enshittified settings app. Hell iMessage stopped synchronizing with my phone while I'm on a VPN.

As long as the focus is on whiz bang bullshit I can't imagine Sequoia will be any good.

Re: macOS Sequoia Preview

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Post by OldGuyInTheClub » Tue, Jun 11, 2024, 5:32 AM UTC

nofunsir wrote: post #81

Wish I could use Safari with uBO, so that I could use Safari. Tired of feature fragmentation in 3rd party software, but equally tired of ostensible limitations in 1st party software that try to control and prevent every single edge case use in the name of "uSeR ExPeRiEnCe". EDIT: I'd like to add the following, in case any Safari team members come across this in the wake of today's keynote. I remain utterly disgusted…

Kagi's Orion browser is based on Safari but allows FF and Chrome extensions. uBO works although the Youtube ad blocking is not quite as good as FF.

Re: macOS Sequoia Preview

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h » Tue, Jun 11, 2024, 5:34 AM UTC

carlosjobim wrote: post #256

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Individual people are allowed to opine about how the world should work.

Hackers are really something else... Would it sound normal to you if somebody started demanding things that "should be readily available to me" as a response to advice on how to solve a problem. Nobody here owes you anything, so try acting polite if you actually want something that you don't have. Unless you are actually the chairman of the central committee, in which case I apologize for the transgression, comrade.

Are you the chairman of the committee on who is allowed to make demands? Because it sounds like you're trying to demand that other people stop doing so.

Re: macOS Sequoia Preview

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Post by sircastor » Tue, Jun 11, 2024, 5:35 AM UTC

aurareturn wrote: post #254

sircastor wrote: post #177

The commentary stream I was watching described it as "An whole lot of Sherlocking going on": Passwords app, Window Snapping, iPhone to mac Display mirroring. It feels especially tone deaf that they're doing it at their developer conference If you're unfamiliar with the term, "Sherlocking" is the act of Apple introducing some 3rd-party's App features as a core component of the operating system, essentially obviating t…

What’s the problem? 99% of Mac users would never download and use those apps due to convenience. But if Apple builds the features into the OS, it will get used much more and benefit the users. I don’t use a password manager. I refuse to pay a subscription for one. Yet, I’ve been wanting Apple to convert Keychain into a real password manager for a long time. They actually did it and I’m happy.

I think there is a significant ethical issue related to inviting others to build software on your platform, prove that software’s market value, and then you under-cutting them by creating your own version of it for free to increase sales.