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85% of People Want Global Ban on Single-Use Plastics

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Re: 85% of People Want Global Ban on Single-Use Plastics

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When I go fishing at the creek it is not a ton of paper bags littering it. Single-use plastic bags are terrible and people overly use them. Go get a pack of gum from a bodega and you'll be offered a plastic bag by default. Maybe we shouldn't necessarily ban them, but we should definitely tax them to make people question "do I really need that bag?"

it sounds like your assessment of environmental harms is mostly guided by surface appearances, but things like paper mill pollution are not easily visible or understandable

When did I advocate for paper bags? I don't seem to see that anywhere. It seems like your argument is mostly guided by straw men and reading comprehension failure. How is paper mill pollution relevant then? There weren't paper bags available where I went either. So it's not like banning plastic bags increased paper usage.

Either way, we can also have regulations protecting against paper mill pollution. It's not like we have to have one or the other. We can do both!

But in the end my argument is we should do much to eliminate the wastefulness of single-use bags in general. Not that we should substitute one for another. Quit throwing so much shit away every day of your life is my argument.

I fully acknowledge there's absolutely useful places for disposable things. Medical equipment, certain kinds of packaging, etc makes a lot of sense; there's often not really any good alternatives. But being given a throw away bag after buying a pack of gum is a simple example of the egregiousness of our throw away culture.

Go kayaking on most rivers in the US and get absolutely inundated with single use plastic trash of the worst kinds and continue telling me how bad doing anything is. Fuck single use plastic shopping bags, I can't wait to see them disappear.

Re: 85% of People Want Global Ban on Single-Use Plastics

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I'll admit I was a little skeptical of plastic bag bans here in Canada, but it's had a noticeable effect on how much random garbage ends up stuck in hedges and fences where I live. Adapting to it wasn't too bad and good reusable bags are a lot more ergonomic and don't tear as easily when carrying heavy loads.

Our neighborhood has a stretch where people park and dump litter profusely. I go out once a month and clean it up. (Soooo many vape pods) I think the biggest change is mostly in perception. Old plastic bags were lighter and blew around so they were very visible. The newer heavier "reusable" plastic bags use a significant amount more of plastic - they are heavy enough to stay near where they get dropped and sink to th…

Why do people dump litter like this? I can't even really comprehend it in a developed country.

Re: 85% of People Want Global Ban on Single-Use Plastics

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Lots of medical supplies are single use plastics.

Medical supplies also tend to have much better-defined disposal processes and ends-of-life than, say, plastic bags or coke bottles.

Irony is depending on what country you're in coke bottles might have a better disposal process than even medical supplies.
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