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Re: How to get 7th graders to smoke

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Post by rdtsc » Fri, May 17, 2024, 3:53 PM UTC

ido wrote: post #205

rdtsc wrote: post #105

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It's kind of both. For some strange reason I watched that movie again recently. I guess they were supposed to be the distilled version of whatever was considered bad in society in the 90s: hyper-masculinity, smoking, oil tankers, guns, religion (they went on "crusades", the leader was "The Deacon") etc.

Aren't all these things ± still what's considered bad in 2024?

Pretty much. But the giant oil tanker full of "meanies" was a nod to Exxon Valdez which was fresh in memory then.

Re: How to get 7th graders to smoke

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Post by csours » Tue, May 21, 2024, 5:16 PM UTC

aeonik wrote: post #39

It's pretty funny in a sad way to me that this article talks about how little we know about human behavior and struggling to find answers about why the kids had a backfire effect. I remember these programs, and I remember how they made me and my friends feel. But nobody asked us, lol. I'd even try to tell people I thought, but instead of listening to us, we were admonished. The problem is that these programs are full…

"I am not a fish" - Seth Godin

As the author of the post says in a reply to a comment:

> ' This is a common outcome for programs like this: "It doesn't work, but the adults like it!" '

Re: How to get 7th graders to smoke

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Post by alt227 » Tue, May 28, 2024, 3:04 PM UTC

asdfgrasdf123 wrote: post #85

alt227 wrote: post #73

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> touched on how smokers eventually need cigarettes just to feel normal. This is the same for every addictive substance, no?

I was amphetamine addict, I used daily for a year, very excessively in later stage. When I stopped I felt normal, it was not fun but I did not need amphetamine to get through the day. There is no physical urge to use more, you do it because you like it. It is very different with opiates I heard, but you said every. The word addiction pushed me towards drugs because I thought if I can stop any time it is not addiction…

I am sorry for your experience, but having lots of experience myself in amphtemines I do not consider it an addictive substance.