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Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Why does everyone here think that the guy who quit/lost his job at OpenAI because he didn't agree with their corporate shift and departure from the original non-profit vision is going to be lining up for another big corporate job building closed for-profit AI?

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Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Not all of us are as morally bankrupt as that. I personally think I could make tons of money with a dumb AI product in my specific area of expertise, but I don’t see how any tech from today would improve outcomes versus the SOTA that’s not AI, but it would add costs and complexity. I would personally be annoyed if a company I worked at changed its goals to make money rather than something more noble. It’s happened a…

Not all, but also not enough.

It is career limiting to have morals.

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Personally I don’t trust much of anything sam says, so I’d take any framing with a large grain of salt

> a large grain of salt You mean a lump of salt? I've always wondered what the right word is to describe this amount of salt /!jk

A pinch of salt

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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> a large grain of salt You mean a lump of salt? I've always wondered what the right word is to describe this amount of salt /!jk

I've been offered a "lump" of sugar before, and it was not a single sugar crystal. When I hear "large grain of salt" I imagine something like this https://crystalverse.com/sodium-chloride-crystals/ , quite different than a lump.

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Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Probably not related, but it's worth pointing out that Daniel Kokotajlo ( https://www.lesswrong.com/users/daniel-kokotajlo ) left last month. But if it were related, then that would presumably be because people within the company (or at least two rather noteworthy people) no longer believe that OpenAI is acting in the best interests of humanity. Which isn't too shocking really given that a decent chunk of us feel the…

Well it might be in the best (long-term) interests of humanity to have autonomous flying killer robots powered by OpenAI secret military contracting work cut the human population in half, in the name of the long-term ecological health of the planet, and to cull those not smart or fast enough to run away, thus improving the breeding stock. That's why I don't trust people who run around claiming to be serving the best…

What? How is this not saying "Well, it might be in the best interests of humanity for OpenAI to do [hypothetical thing that seems pretty bad that OpenAI has never suggested to do], and because they may consider doing said thing, we shouldn't trust them"?

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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'Back in May 2023, before Ilya Sutskever started to speak at the event, I sat next to him and told him, “Ilya, I listened to all of your podcast interviews. And unlike Sam Altman, who spread the AI panic all over the place, you sound much more calm, rational, and nuanced. I think you do a really good service to your work, to what you develop, to OpenAI.” He blushed a bit, and said, “Oh, thank you. I appreciate the co…

I read the linked article and have no clue what the author is even trying to say..

It reads like a Jackson Pollock.
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