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Re: Veo

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The amount of negativity in these comments is astounding. Congrats to the teams at Google on what they have built, and hoping for more competition and progress in this space.

I think it’s fear. Maybe not openly, but people are spooked at how fast stuff is happening, so shitting on progress is a natural reaction.

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Re: Veo

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post #182
post #114

The amount of negativity in these comments is astounding. Congrats to the teams at Google on what they have built, and hoping for more competition and progress in this space.

You have to give Google credit as they went against the OpenAI fanatics, Google doomsday crowd and some of the permanent critics (who won't disclose they invested in OpenAI's secondary share sale) that believe that Google can't keep up. In fact, they already did. What OpenAI announced was nothing that Google could not do already. The top comments around Sora vs Veo suggesting that Google was falling behind, given the…

> In fact, they already did.

In terms of software that's actually been released Google is still at best in third place when it comes to AI products.

I don't care what they can demo, I care what they've shipped. So far the only thing they've shipped for Veo is a waitlist.

Re: Veo

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post #241
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How do I get access? I just checked my app and the Premium upgrade says it will unlocked GPT-3.5 and GPT-4, so I assume my version is still the old one. All my apps are updated in the App Store too.

In the App Store there's a new build of the iOS app as of 3 hours about (call it about 11am US Pacific time). It includes the GPT-4o model (at least it shows it for me.)

Are you a paid user?

Re: Veo

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> We have to take account that this community (good chunk have stakes in YC and a lot to gain from secondary shares in OpenAI) You have to be pretty deep inside your own little bubble to think that even more than a 0.001% of HN has "stakes in YC" or "secondary shares in OpenAI".

It can be a vocal minority. Still vocal. I wouldn't discard.

I have 0% stake in any YC, and I'm very vocal in my negativity against any of these "AI" anythings. All of these announcements are only slighty more than a toddler anxious to show the parental units a finger painting looking to hang it on the fridge. Only instead of the fridge, they are a hoping to get funding/investment knowing that their product is not a fully fledged anything. It's comical.

Re: Veo

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Obligatory: Liam Neeson jumps over a fence in 6 seconds, with 14 cuts[1]. 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCKhktcbfQM

The top comment makes a really good point though: "He's 68. I'm guessing they stitched it together like this because "geriatric spends 30 seconds scaling chainlink fence then breaks a hip" doesn't exactly make for riveting action flick fare." Lingering shots are horrible for obscuring things.

Keanu Reeves was 57-8 when he shot the last John Wick. IIRC Bob Odenkirk was 58 in Nobody. Neeson was 60 in Taken 3.

There ways to shoot an action scene with an aging star that doesn't involve 14 cuts in 4 seconds. You just have to care about your craft.

Re: Veo

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post #114

The amount of negativity in these comments is astounding. Congrats to the teams at Google on what they have built, and hoping for more competition and progress in this space.

I think it’s fear. Maybe not openly, but people are spooked at how fast stuff is happening, so shitting on progress is a natural reaction.

I have noticed this the most in SWE's who went from being code writers to "human intention decipherers". Ask a an SWE in 2019 what they do and it was "Write novel and efficient code", ask one in 2024 and you get "Sit in meetings and talk to project managers in order to translate their poor communication to good code".

Not saying the latter was never true, it's just interesting to see how people have reframed their work in the wake of breakneck AI progress.

Re: Veo

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post #114

The amount of negativity in these comments is astounding. Congrats to the teams at Google on what they have built, and hoping for more competition and progress in this space.

I think it's just hype fatigue.

There's genuinely impressive progress being made, but there are also a lot of new models coming out promising way more than they can deliver. Even the Google AI announcements, which used to be carefully tailored to keep expectations low and show off their own limitations, now read more like marketing puff pieces.

I'm sure a lot of the HN crowd likes to pretend we're all perfectly discerning arbiters of the tech future with our thumbs on the pulse of the times or whatever, but realistically nobody is going to sift through a mountain of announcements ranging from "states it's revolutionary, is marginal improvement" to "states it's revolutionary, is merely an impressive step" to "states it's revolutionary, is bullshit" without resorting to vibes-based analysis.

Re: Veo

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They didn't show any human videos, which could indicate that the technology struggles with generating them.

They're probably still wary of their latest PR disaster, the inclusive and diverse WW2 Germans from Gemini.

Re: Veo

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post #114

The amount of negativity in these comments is astounding. Congrats to the teams at Google on what they have built, and hoping for more competition and progress in this space.

I think it’s fear. Maybe not openly, but people are spooked at how fast stuff is happening, so shitting on progress is a natural reaction.

I suspect it's also a general fatigue with the over-hype. It is moving fast, but every step improvement has come with its own mini hype cycle. The demos are very curated and make the model look incredibly flexible and resilient. But when we test the product in the wild, it's constantly surprising the simple tasks it blunders on. It's natural to become a bit cynical and human to take that cynicism on the attack. Not saying it's right, just natural, in the same way that it's natural for the marketing teams to be as misleading as they can get away with. Both are annoying, but there's not much to do.

Re: Veo

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It is. I've got it already, but I'm a bit of a gpt4 power user. I hit my rate limit biweekly or so and run up close to it every day. I'd bet maybe they prioritized people that were costing them money.

Really? You have the new model, sure, I have it too, but afaik nobody has the new ultra fast and variable voice + video chat on mobile.

The original question asked if anyone had GPT-4o. You're asking a different question.
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