New gel breaks down alcohol in the body • Hacker News Board

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

#261

Post by James_K » Sat, May 18, 2024, 8:21 AM UTC

chefandy wrote: post #259

James_K wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Alcohol-free cocktails exist. They are called "mocktails" and are very popular if I understand correctly Yeah, sold mostly at cafés, not pubs. And there's a heck of a gap between those and the enzymatic gel you are proposing people eat.

> Yeah, sold mostly at cafés, not pubs. Sorry-- you're just completely, factually wrong. It's not just the market where I am, either. I just did a google search for "best mocktails in [New York/London/Paris/Los Angeles]" and every one of the top articles almost exclusively highlighted bars or restaurants with bars-- all establishments that primarily serve alcoholic cocktails. If that's not true where you are, where y…

Google listicles are not research.

> why do people drink mocktails

Because they taste good. Does this gel taste good? Probably not. It is fundamentally unpleasant, pointless, and strange. It solves a problem that has better solutions everyone is familiar with. It offers people nothing but discomfort and abnormality, and worse most people don't even understand what it does. It is perhaps the epitome of an unmarketable product.

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

#262

Post by chefandy » Sun, May 19, 2024, 5:32 PM UTC

James_K wrote: post #261

chefandy wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yeah, sold mostly at cafés, not pubs. Sorry-- you're just completely, factually wrong. It's not just the market where I am, either. I just did a google search for "best mocktails in [New York/London/Paris/Los Angeles]" and every one of the top articles almost exclusively highlighted bars or restaurants with bars-- all establishments that primarily serve alcoholic cocktails. If that's not true where you are, where y…

Google listicles are not research. > why do people drink mocktails Because they taste good. Does this gel taste good? Probably not. It is fundamentally unpleasant, pointless, and strange. It solves a problem that has better solutions everyone is familiar with. It offers people nothing but discomfort and abnormality, and worse most people don't even understand what it does. It is perhaps the epitome of an unmarketable…

Well, you seem really committed to not challenging your assumption that your perspective on this is universal despite my presenting plenty of evidence to the contrary. I've explained my expertise and shown you how to confirm my understanding of the topic with entirely unrelated sources, and you've inexplicably disregarded both. If you think that your understanding of this issue is somehow reflects reality more accurately than stacks of articles from food and beverage magazines that literally say the opposite, you've clearly already reached your conclusion and aren't entertaining any contrary information. There's obviously no productive path for this conversation to continue.

I really hope you reflect on whether you're more interested in being right, or feeling right, because the difference is consequential.

Re: New gel breaks down alcohol in the body

#263

Post by James_K » Sun, May 19, 2024, 9:01 PM UTC

chefandy wrote: post #262

James_K wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google listicles are not research. > why do people drink mocktails Because they taste good. Does this gel taste good? Probably not. It is fundamentally unpleasant, pointless, and strange. It solves a problem that has better solutions everyone is familiar with. It offers people nothing but discomfort and abnormality, and worse most people don't even understand what it does. It is perhaps the epitome of an unmarketable…

Well, you seem really committed to not challenging your assumption that your perspective on this is universal despite my presenting plenty of evidence to the contrary. I've explained my expertise and shown you how to confirm my understanding of the topic with entirely unrelated sources, and you've inexplicably disregarded both. If you think that your understanding of this issue is somehow reflects reality more accura…

> shown you how to confirm my understanding of the topic with entirely unrelated sources

You told me to Google it. I'll make a guess that you aren't the academic type, but trust me when I say that generally isn't accepted as a source.

> I really hope you reflect on whether you're more interested in being right, or feeling right, because the difference is consequential.

And what's brilliant is that I can both be and feel correct in the knowledge that this stuff will never be popular. You'd struggle to give it away for free, let alone get people to pay for it.

> you aren't entertaining any contrary information

I've entertained plenty of contrary information and explained why I don't believe it. You've addressed almost nothing I've said except by making spurious claims that you working as a bartender more than half a decade ago somehow means you are psychically in tune with people, and they all went to eat weird anti-alcohol jelly.

I really hope you can reflect on how to make actually convincing arguments for your perspective instead of just calling people stupid and flaunting your """experience""" while ignoring everything you are told.