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H5N1 prevalence in milk suggest US bird flu outbreak in cows is widespread

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post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In that case, right back at you on "strongest possible interpretation" - The focus of that first comment wasn't "soy", it was "what the animal eats". That response was both responding to the important portion while correcting them on cow diets.

Cows don’t only eat grass.

I know.

> > > > cows mostly eat grass

Re: H5N1 prevalence in milk suggest US bird flu outbreak in cows is widespread

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Middle Ages peasants ate meat rarely. They were not obese.

They also starved to death frequently, and died of a lot of diseases that we now survive easily, so by your logic, I should eat more meat.

> They also starved to death frequently

But they weren't obese. The person I was responded to claimed obesity is because of less meat.

> and died of a lot of diseases that we now survive easily, so by your logic, I should eat more meat

I didn't know you got your measles vaccine from a plate of pork chops. I got mine via a hypodermic needle, from a nurse who studied anatomy, biology, and germ theory for several years, and washed her hands.

Re: H5N1 prevalence in milk suggest US bird flu outbreak in cows is widespread

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Is there a significant chance of a human crossover stemming from this cow outbreak? Are the influenza virus targets in cows similar to those of humans, that adaptations for one host would be useful for the other? Is the large population size (millions of cows) worrisome for viral evolution, with the high cumulative volume of mutations? Do governments not consider mass culling an option here, the way they routinely ap…

Only if a significant amount of people are being directly infected by the cows and a mutation occurs in a person to allow spread to other humans. So seems like the chance is low, but not zero. The real worry is pigs. If it makes its way to pigs, we are in trouble. From what I understand, pigs contain a mix of avian and human receptors that make them the ideal mixing ground for crossover. Cows do not.

The question is what is the probability it doesn't transfer to pigs (if it hasn't already), compounded on a daily basis and given an exponentially increasing viral load in farm environments?

Scratch that. The question is how many days or weeks until it does make that leap.

Then the two next questions are what's the likelihood of any given pig serving as an incubator for a recombinant virus that attaches to human lung epithelial cells, and how deadly is that virus. Run that experiment every day for six months at a few farms and you might get lucky. Run it everywhere in the country and we're S.O.L.

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