The purge of German science in 1933

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Re: The purge of German science in 1933

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Post by pasabagi » Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 11:15 AM UTC

EnigmaFlare wrote: post #260

pasabagi wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So IQ is a word used to describe the results of a bunch of tests first established by eugenicists in the late 19th century, and has no scientific extraction whatsoever. Genetics is a field of science, and you can identify groups that carry particular genes. However, the 'races' don't map to distinct genetic groups, which is very unsurprising: the 'races' or 'ethnicities' are just administrative or cultural groupings…

The origin isn't relevant to whether it's valid or not. No, ethnicities are absolutely not just administrative or cultural groupings. You've clearly done no research into this topic whatsoever and are just repeating some misinformation you got fooled by. Even the classic races which are unnecessarily crude by modern standards do actually partly correspond to distinct genetic groups. We can now classify ethnicities at…

... That's just nonsense. Normal scientists working in genetics don't believe in race. The field has moved on from the 40s. It's not a conspiracy, there's just no evidence, because why should there be? It would be very surprising if a bunch of 19th century racists had accidentally discovered a deep truth about genetics before anybody had even discovered DNA.

Honestly, you just sound like you're a racist. Which is sad, but it's also indicative of a lack of common sense that you expect the universe to conform to your prejudices.

Re: The purge of German science in 1933

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Post by EnigmaFlare » Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 9:36 PM UTC

pasabagi wrote: post #261

EnigmaFlare wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The origin isn't relevant to whether it's valid or not. No, ethnicities are absolutely not just administrative or cultural groupings. You've clearly done no research into this topic whatsoever and are just repeating some misinformation you got fooled by. Even the classic races which are unnecessarily crude by modern standards do actually partly correspond to distinct genetic groups. We can now classify ethnicities at…

... That's just nonsense. Normal scientists working in genetics don't believe in race. The field has moved on from the 40s. It's not a conspiracy, there's just no evidence, because why should there be? It would be very surprising if a bunch of 19th century racists had accidentally discovered a deep truth about genetics before anybody had even discovered DNA. Honestly, you just sound like you're a racist. Which is sad…

I can't understand how you can say that when it's transparently false. There's an enormous quantity of research on ethnicity and genetics. Researchers have found all sorts of correlations. Even common sense tells you things about eye color, hair color, etc. but it goes far deeper than that. It's more precise than classic race but both are still valid classifications.

You must also think scientists don't believe in the distinction between planets and dwarf planets, or even stars. Yes it's an arbitrary classification, but it's still useful.

You're thinking is just like the people in TFA. Rejecting some science for arbitrary and nonsensical political reasons. You've replaces dirty Jewish science with dirty racist's science.

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