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Re: Brain waves appear to wash out waste during sleep in mice

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Post by Doxin »

magicalhippo wrote: post #155
robg wrote: post #87

If you have any doubts about sleep quantity and quality, worth reading about the glymphatic nervous system, which is so newly discovered likely you didn’t learn about it in school. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4636982/ In short it explains, mechanistically, why poor sleep affects daily cognition, mental health, and age-related declines. Robust scientific theories explain more of the evidence. The glym…

It makes me sad as my SO struggles a lot with sleep. It's been years since she's had a good nights sleep. Sadly her issues are mostly psychologically rooted due to past trauma, while all the treatments seem to be geared towards "simple" physical issues. She's tried contacting various sleep clinics here and they've all said they can't help. She struggles a lot with falling asleep, she's exceptionally sensitive to soun…

> she's exceptionally sensitive to sound and vibration

I'm assuming you've tried ~everything already, but just in case: Have you tried white noise yet? Your brain is very good at filtering it out after listening to it for a while, but it'll still drown out other noises.

Re: Brain waves appear to wash out waste during sleep in mice

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Post by magicalhippo »

danielscrubs wrote: post #256
magicalhippo wrote: post #155

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It makes me sad as my SO struggles a lot with sleep. It's been years since she's had a good nights sleep. Sadly her issues are mostly psychologically rooted due to past trauma, while all the treatments seem to be geared towards "simple" physical issues. She's tried contacting various sleep clinics here and they've all said they can't help. She struggles a lot with falling asleep, she's exceptionally sensitive to soun…

Sounds too simple but high doses of vitamin C before sleep removed all of my stress induced nightmares.

Interesting, most sources I could find say vitamin C should make you less sleepy.

Re: Brain waves appear to wash out waste during sleep in mice

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Post by magicalhippo »

Doxin wrote: post #261
magicalhippo wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It makes me sad as my SO struggles a lot with sleep. It's been years since she's had a good nights sleep. Sadly her issues are mostly psychologically rooted due to past trauma, while all the treatments seem to be geared towards "simple" physical issues. She's tried contacting various sleep clinics here and they've all said they can't help. She struggles a lot with falling asleep, she's exceptionally sensitive to soun…

> she's exceptionally sensitive to sound and vibration I'm assuming you've tried ~everything already, but just in case: Have you tried white noise yet? Your brain is very good at filtering it out after listening to it for a while, but it'll still drown out other noises.

The low frequency sounds she's triggered by have a tendency to cut through. But can't hurt to try again.

Re: Brain waves appear to wash out waste during sleep in mice

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Post by Doxin »

magicalhippo wrote: post #263
Doxin wrote: post #261

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> she's exceptionally sensitive to sound and vibration I'm assuming you've tried ~everything already, but just in case: Have you tried white noise yet? Your brain is very good at filtering it out after listening to it for a while, but it'll still drown out other noises.

The low frequency sounds she's triggered by have a tendency to cut through. But can't hurt to try again.

Yeah if it's contact sound there's not a great deal you can do unfortunately

Re: Brain waves appear to wash out waste during sleep in mice

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Post by onesillybilly »

magicalhippo wrote: post #263
Doxin wrote: post #261

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> she's exceptionally sensitive to sound and vibration I'm assuming you've tried ~everything already, but just in case: Have you tried white noise yet? Your brain is very good at filtering it out after listening to it for a while, but it'll still drown out other noises.

The low frequency sounds she's triggered by have a tendency to cut through. But can't hurt to try again.

On the off chance you haven’t explored it, I would recommend looking into EMDR therapy. It made an incredible difference in my PTSD.

Re: Brain waves appear to wash out waste during sleep in mice

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Post by magicalhippo »

onesillybilly wrote: post #266
magicalhippo wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The low frequency sounds she's triggered by have a tendency to cut through. But can't hurt to try again.

On the off chance you haven’t explored it, I would recommend looking into EMDR therapy. It made an incredible difference in my PTSD.

Thanks, that one hadn't popped up on our radar before.

Re: Brain waves appear to wash out waste during sleep in mice

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Post by iisan7 »

samstave wrote: post #242
iisan7 wrote: post #240

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You had "Phenibut" right there and you went with Promethazine?

(sorry - but I am not sure if you are making a ref I dont get but "Promethezine" is the actual name of the pharma-thingy... If you made a popculture ref, I miss... :-) aleays participate though

no problem -- it was just a throwaway comment to the effect that "Phenibut" in reference to the other drug mentioned the parent comment sounded much more like a gay D&D centaur to my ear.

Re: Brain waves appear to wash out waste during sleep in mice

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Post by samstave »

iisan7 wrote: post #268
samstave wrote: post #242

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(sorry - but I am not sure if you are making a ref I dont get but "Promethezine" is the actual name of the pharma-thingy... If you made a popculture ref, I miss... :-) aleays participate though

no problem -- it was just a throwaway comment to the effect that "Phenibut" in reference to the other drug mentioned the parent comment sounded much more like a gay D&D centaur to my ear.

hahaha thank you for the reply.. we both win (in tight Richard Simmons type font)

Re: Brain waves appear to wash out waste during sleep in mice

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Post by gitaarik »

mattlondon wrote: post #53
_y5hn wrote: post #35

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That's been in use for thousands of years already: yoga, pranayama and meditation. There are courses one can take where one learns this, like Art of Living and any other that follows the same traditions. Yes, there's research on that, and new studies should absolutely gain from this study. Not entirely sure you'll observe the same effect, that depends on meditator, but you can fall asleep during practice. I have over…

I think the point of replacing sleep is to save time. Replacing hours of sleep with hours of yogo or mediation seems like you are not gaining anything.

Meditation is a practice, you practice to keep your mind "clean" and don't clutter it with unnecessary thoughts, worries, etc. If you master this skill, you will require less sleep. And then you don't have to be sitting on the floor all the time, you can just live your life without cluttering your mind all the time. So it is ultimately more efficient than cluttering your mind all day and then needing lots of sleep. But it does take some initial practicing time before you reach that state of mind. But with all things, if you put some effort in beforehand, you can reap a lot of gain afterwards. Doing this practice for about 20/30 minutes every morning can already quickly bring great improvement to your daily life. If done right that is. It's easy to do it wrong also, and then it can not bring any benefit. Sometimes it's necessary to first work out some traumas before you start a serious meditation practice. Sometimes meditation actually helps you work out traumas. It all depends on the person and situation. For some people guided meditation works great, other people rather just sit in silence. It doesn't really matter, as long as you find something that works for you.

See it like exercising: you might think that spending time on exercising takes away time that you could spend on doing useful things. But it actually gives you better health, making you function better in your daily life. So it enables you to do things more efficiently. And you'll feel healthier, better, happier. So ultimately you gain from it.

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