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Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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Apple’s behavior largely makes sense given what a huge share of their profits their racketeering of customer access earns them. If you ever wanted to see regulation pains as the cost of doing business, this is it. But banning epic was just pathetic baby behavior. I hope epic launches the epic game store for iOS and its dogshit but cheaper and the gacha gravy boats all jump ship

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Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple and Google are for-profit corporations. Im sure they would protest that they don't need saving

They aren’t a single person. There are no doubt people in those orgs who might wish to do away with all the anticompetitive strongarmsmanship in the spirit of shared technological innovation. But, its not like they have agency to change anything and the shareholders just want a growth stock not actual technological progress, so thats how they end up managed.

A lot more ideological fights boil down to internal factions pushing things one way or the other than one would think.

Smart people can make mischief visible or invisible without necessarily getting caught defecting or cooperating.

Oops did I draw that regulator’s attention to the room where we keep the bodies? Silly me.

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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Between this and the PWA decision, Apple seems to be flailing. What is leadership doing?

What was the deal with PWAs?

EU rules say Apple can't prioritize their own browser. PWAs only work with WebKit due to the iOS security model, and the amount of work necessary to try to support PWAs with third-party browser engines securely was way out of scope for the time frame to support the DMA. Because Apple can't prioritize their own browser, they had to remove PWA support entirely in the EU.

Naturally there was a lot of backlash, and so Apple reversed their decision and will continue to support PWAs with WebKit in the EU. This suggests that perhaps the European Commission told Apple that it was okay to do this as it does seem to violate the "don't prioritize your own browser" rule, but as of the last I saw on this it was still unclear.

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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Amazing how fast this decision was reversed. It's truly awesome to see regulators standing up to walled gardens. This will greatly benefit both developers and consumers.

It's unlikely that "regulators" had anything to do with it, given the quick resolution. I'd be more inclined to think that Epic went back to Apple hat-in-hand and begged to be let back in, probably promising to muzzle Sweeney.

Sure, Apple takes a strong decision which breaks a just-enforced law, and two days later they back down because they had a nice talk with Epic. /s

The EU told Apple that breaking the law would have dire consequences. That's the only reason Apple backed down.

Stop spreading Apple propaganda.

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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>70 years of peace. Which 70 years?

The 70 years the US paid for of course :)

I think Europe paid for it with interest, see the huge US government debt financed by printing petrol dollars

After the gold standard everyone except the US has been paying for it

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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Amazing how fast this decision was reversed. It's truly awesome to see regulators standing up to walled gardens. This will greatly benefit both developers and consumers.

From the article

> “Following conversations with Epic, they have committed to follow the rules, including our DMA policies. As a result, Epic Sweden AB has been permitted to re-sign the developer agreement and accepted into the Apple Developer Program.”

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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> And the minimal assurances in Mr. Sweeney’s curt response were swiftly undercut by a litany of public attacks on Apple’s policies, compliance plan, and business model. So according to Apple [edit] one isn't allowed to say bad things about a company publicly or they are allowed to ban your account? Interesting view.

The main point made is "Epic is verifiably untrustworthy". You're quoting a secondary factor.

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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Apple's statement: “Following conversations with Epic, they have committed to follow the rules, including our DMA policies. As a result, Epic Sweden AB has been permitted to re-sign the developer agreement and accepted into the Apple Developer Program.” If you think the EU got their shit together in 2 days, you're day dreaming. Phil Schiller invited Epic to make assurances that they'd follow the terms of the agreemen…

I agree. I feel like this was really a muscle flex from Apple in terms of preventing shenanigans. The most critical part of this for Apple is the message to others who are thinking about opening a app marketplace:

- You're still going to be paying us our 27%

- You screw around and we will clip your wings.

Incidentally, if you don't like the rules Apple has set up, start pushing for a law that you do want. If you happen to be in the US, actually write your representatives rather than just whine about it online to a bunch of other people.

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