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Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by GuB-42 »

mk89 wrote: post #201
Kelteseth wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. The current German (extremist) far right AfD, does endorse less regulation, no subsidies for farmers and the free market.

Afd says whatever people want to hear: today people want a more flexible and free market? We give you that! And we do it better: we privatize deutsche bahn so the trains are never late anymore! Yes, yes, yes! This is what makes them dangerous - they can promise you anything and somehow you (general you) believe them.

I was actually thinking about RN, the French leading far right party. Their main point relates to security, immigration and general nationalism. But when it comes to the economy, they tend to support welfare (except for immigrants of course...), support local farmers, and nationalize highways (which are private in France).

But yes, they promise what people who may vote for them want, and it turns out, on the economic side, it is slightly leaning left. The general sentiment may be different in Germany.

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Post by brazzy »

carlosjobim wrote: post #183
dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #10

What amazes and perplexes me is that Apple thinks it can effectively play politics against the EU and that somehow their customers will back them in the face of the "consequences" Apple applies, which are pretty transparent and really quite amateurish (eg no more web apps for you!). As the article states, the first mistake Apple makes is thinking the EU is somehow like the US, but I can't see how any large proportion…

> EU citizens haven't been brainwashed into thinking that their government is their enemy, at least not to the same extent as the US. US citizens haven't been brainwashed into thinking that their government is their friend, at least not to the same extent as the EU. Honestly, if you talk to real people within the EU, you'll find that maybe half of them are mostly against the EU. Real life is not the same as HN, becau…

> Honestly, if you talk to real people within the EU, you'll find that maybe half of them are mostly against the EU.

There is exactly one country where that is true: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/10/24/people-br...

Across the EU, it's one third (i.e. a two-to-one majority sees the EU positively)

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by 2devnull »

nonethewiser wrote: post #90
roenxi wrote: post #51

I quite like the article as far as it goes; but this begs the follow up question - is the strategy working? Because for all their standards and harmonisation, the manufacturing is happening in China and the decisions are being made in North America. This should be an article about how Nokia or equivalent is approaching the US all wrong and not understanding the realities on the ground. I'd put energy in a similar fra…

> Because for all their standards and harmonisation, the manufacturing is happening in China and the decisions are being made in North America. Seems like this holds true more generally. The manufacturing is happening in China, the decisions are being made in North America, and the regulation in the EU. Its like direct (US), produce (China), react (EU)

China can regulate more effectively than the EU. They have actual concentration camps. Look at Jack Ma. The EU has cookie banners. That’s not regulation, it’s a speed bump. Consider that the US cannot manufacture things because our environmental and labor regulations are so strict as to make it impossible. The idea that America doesn’t have regulations is not accurate. We have regulated the regulation, so it appears less regulatory but it is not.

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Post by marcosdumay »

dangus wrote: post #110
bengale wrote: post #55

"They were behaving like Elon Musk. And we certainly don’t want more Elon Musks in the world." I'm not a fan of his behaviour on Twitter, but the idea that the world does not want more Elon Musks seems insane to me. Theyre not for me personally, but whatever you think about Teslas I don't see how you would not want a person who can build a new car company. Just look at other entrants like Rivian, it's so hard, and he…

The sheer volume of electric car startup companies shows that Elon Musk was in the right place at the right time. The reason there are a lot of EV startups is because the powertrain is simple. You don’t need an army of engine plants and parts suppliers to build an EV. That is the disruptive part about the EV, which has nothing to do with anything unique to Elon Musk. Also, he didn’t found the company, he was just an…

It's as if everybody just forgot that the world was full of propaganda against electric cars (hey, hydrogen is the future!), regulation was heavily stopping any car startup, and the catch-22 problem of not being able to charge because nobody had electric cars existed.

Nobody was making a car startup on that scene.

It's been what, a decade and half? It's amazing how people forget.

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Post by immibis »

mjburgess wrote: post #24
dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #10

What amazes and perplexes me is that Apple thinks it can effectively play politics against the EU and that somehow their customers will back them in the face of the "consequences" Apple applies, which are pretty transparent and really quite amateurish (eg no more web apps for you!). As the article states, the first mistake Apple makes is thinking the EU is somehow like the US, but I can't see how any large proportion…

It does seem they've mistaken the general sentiment towards government regulation in europe, which is typically, "more, better". Since we have so many consumer protections, much of how we end up engaging with the law around business practices is to our benefit . We're always aware we can raise bad business practices with an ombudsman (etc.). So our lived experience of government regulation is, in large part, positive…

Nowhere is the general sentiment towards government regulation "more, better".

The correct sentiment is both "more good ones, better" and "less bad ones, better"

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Post by brazzy »

llm_trw wrote: post #82
dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #10

What amazes and perplexes me is that Apple thinks it can effectively play politics against the EU and that somehow their customers will back them in the face of the "consequences" Apple applies, which are pretty transparent and really quite amateurish (eg no more web apps for you!). As the article states, the first mistake Apple makes is thinking the EU is somehow like the US, but I can't see how any large proportion…

I think there needs to be a word like "Paris syndrome" for when Americans meet actual Europeans and find out their politics. I've not met anyone who doesn't work in Brussels who thinks the EU isn't a dysfunctional pile of shit. The most spirited defense I've heard of it is "Well at least it keeps the Germans from invading again.". > The EU, it's better than genocide, by a bit - probably. -- Enthusiastic EU supporter,…

> I've not met anyone who doesn't work in Brussels who thinks the EU isn't a dysfunctional pile of shit.

Then you live in a very biased bubble.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/10/24/people-br...

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Post by Phemist »

isoprophlex wrote: post #204
mk89 wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

283? You're talking about a personal blog, right? I have seen 500+. Which is like wtf is going on. I can't even name 500+ companies or websites, who the hell are these companies?

My personal best: 1609. We care about your privacy! https://www.neverbeclever.org/blog/we-care-about-your-privac...

Obviously they do care, in the sense that they want to dissolve any remaining semblance of it.

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Post by denton-scratch »

sealeck wrote: post #236

There's also another option where Apple is just going to wait/lobby the US government to apply pressure on the EU in the hope that this is effective (as it has been historically). In in the event of another Trump presidency (let us hope this doesn't happen) this is very likely to happen and Biden has made some moves in this direction. The fact that Europe is 100% reliant on the US to stop the Russians conquering Ukra…

> The fact that Europe is 100% reliant on the US to stop the Russians conquering Ukraine at the moment

This appears to be an "alternative fact", a type of fact that is popular in the USA.

It's true that EU countries have historically underspent on defence. But as far as I can see, US supplies of materiel amount to be some MANPADs, some handheld anti-tank missiles, and some Patriot batteries. The (14?) promised Abrams tanks don't seem to have arrived yet; nor have the promised F-16s.

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Post by overstay8930 »

whatisthiseven wrote: post #221
overstay8930 wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For every shitty spam app in the App Store there’s straight up malware on the play store

So after your basic premise was demonstrated false, you instead just deflect to a nothing statement that couldn't be more false? "Apple is good" "no, they aren't" "for every bad app Apple let's on the platform that makes them extremely rich that they will never ban, and all the spam apps they seem un able to ban, there are definitely way more malware on the play store because Google lets people do whatever" Which is…

The basic premise isn’t false, you just decided it was.

Snapchat and Instagram did irreparable damage to Android’s reputation for an entire generation of people because of how relaxed Google’s restrictions were on lazy developers.

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Post by s_dev »

ajuc wrote: post #215
s_dev wrote: post #101

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That still needed EU approval. Ireland can sell it's beef to the US at a different rate than other EU countries (all Irish beef is grass fed and thus premium grade) again needs EU approval. The EU doesn't mind exceptions to her rules once it can approve or disapprove of them thus preserving the EU trading bloc. People really do think there is a 'gotcha' though e.g. US President Trump getting schooled by Merkel thinki…

> That still needed EU approval Half the EU (basically the whole Eastern Europe) protested. Germany did it anyway.

Germany holds a lot of sway in the EU. My point is that Germany didn't do this unilaterally.
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