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Why are shopping carts always broken?

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IKEA carts if you want to simulate driving over oil. Why are they made with all four wheels turning?

It's easier to maneuver, way easier to turn.

How do you guys do it? Without a fixed rear axis, it’s difficult to roll in a straight direction. You’re constantly fighting the pull of gravity. With American grocery carts, I can maneuver through a needle even in Costco, because it goes in the direction I point to.

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Painkillers are sold in packs of max 16 tablets in the UK (almost always 500mg for paracetamol, 200mg for ibuprofen). In addition they must be sold in blister packs not bottles, and all shops will only allow you to buy two packets per transaction (mix and match, you can’t have 2x paracetamol and 2x ibuprofen). I believe there are some exceptions for prescriptions. Obviously you can still overdose by going to multiple…

What criteria do you use to evaluate that intervention? Which really means, how do you begin to estimate the actual amount of harm reduction that it provides? Are there lots of cases where someone tried to overdose but was saved by it 'only' being 16 grams of paracetamol?

I'm on an alt account here for obvious reasons.

I can only speak from my experience, but at one point I took all the paracetamol I had (suicidal and pretty drunk, the taste of cheap red wine and paracetamol is... unpleasant to say the least). I ended up fine after a friend forced me to go to the hospital the next day. If I had more tablets around, I would have taken them too. So it likely wouldn't stop someone who planned to kill themselves, however with me anyway not having like 100 tablets around did help due to it being impulsive enough.

It might have been quite a big difference due to how long after the fact I went to the hospital, I took quite a lot but it had done little enough damage that some medicine in my arm over the course of about a day and having to avoid alcohol and paracetamol for a while was enough to fix it.

I imagine a lot of cases are quite similar to mine and it probably did make quite a big difference with me as I only had 2 boxes around and one wasn't completely full.

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At a Winco there was a box fan full of tools and parts parked at the end of the parking lot with a hundred or so carts in front of it. It was a repairman going through every cart, took several days as he made his way through all the carts at the store. Had never seen that before. Reminds me of summers spent working for the school district, replacing the glides on the feet of the metal tubed classroom chairs so the br…

I know a business that fix shopping carts. They don't repair at the store, they load up the broken ones onto a truck and take it to the repair shop. The repair shop is a part of large industrial parts store. It's very expensive for the shopping store to repair because it's typically a repair man who has some welding skills that fixes these things. Not sure why other people in this thread would think there is a specif…

You described a more professional version of what Bubbles from Trailer Park Boys does to earn his money.

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At a Winco there was a box fan full of tools and parts parked at the end of the parking lot with a hundred or so carts in front of it. It was a repairman going through every cart, took several days as he made his way through all the carts at the store. Had never seen that before. Reminds me of summers spent working for the school district, replacing the glides on the feet of the metal tubed classroom chairs so the br…

The fan thing also fooled me, but I came here expecting the story to be about web shopping carts. In recent year's I've been prevented from ordering something by a broken web site far more than I've been frustrated by physical shopping cart. The real thing is far more reliable in my experience, and finding another physical cart is so much easier than invoking the web debugger to get past a broken site.

The real story was well worth the read, but I only read it once I twigged what the fan had to do with the story.

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> Grocery store carts are more likely to have carts with wonky wheels than ... drugstores Do countries other than the US have shopping carts in their "drug stores"?

Yea. Look up DM

Not sure why I'm being down voted for this but dm is definitely eu drug store with carts :D

Re: Why are shopping carts always broken?

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Yea. Look up DM

Not sure why I'm being down voted for this but dm is definitely eu drug store with carts :D

"DM" is the store name? Do they have a website?

I was thinking you might have been meaning Denmark or something, as it wasn't clear. :)

Didn't down vote you though.

Re: Why are shopping carts always broken?

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Interesting, I didn't realize the coin locks were only a European thing.

Aldi in the USA also does the coin lock. I don't know why other stores don't do it. Maybe because Aldi is seen as the cheap store and they don't want to be associated with being cheap.

Aldi is a European chain of course, and I suspect they carried that tradition over to their US stores.

I dislike this system. I don't go to Aldi very often, and I never have change on my person or in the car. So I grab a cardboard box (which Aldi makes available to customers) and fill that up as I walk around the store.

So I buy less than I would if I had a cart.

Re: Why are shopping carts always broken?

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This kinda sounds like out of touch big city reporting or something… I’ve experienced broken carts, but not often enough to say “man, those things are always broken”

this is an ad. of sorts. you are to be upset at grocers, for not paying for high quality wheels. (go on now, get upset at the right people. this was expensive, relatively.) cnn is news entertainment. > While the rubber wheels cost twice the price of the standard polyurethane ones, Diaz said P&H Casters’ natural rubber wheels can last for about a decade, barring mistreatment from customers. In a busier store environme…

>> While the rubber wheels cost twice the price of the standard polyurethane ones

Which seems insane because if you buy replacement suspension parts for cars, the long lasting polyurethane replacements always cost more than the OEM style rubber ones.

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> Getting dragged sideways both wears flat spots in the wheels and it can bend the castors or pop the soft part of the wheel of its rim. This may be an American problem. In the UK and many European countries, shopping carts ("trolleys") have castors on all four wheels; they will quite happily glide sideways. This makes them more maneuverable in the smaller stores, at the cost of being more difficult to control - more…

Ya a few places have these in the states, but as you say the control issues are problematic. The whole, an object in motion stays in motion tends to mean if you're pushing one of these heavy carts and try to turn it will rotate about its own axis rather than make a corner.

I have actually come to prefer the all-castoring design. It requires more skill, but less force and the acheivable performance is superior. To turn a cart with fixed wheels, you must apply torque to the push bar. As well as being too narrow to give good leverage, the cart is quite dynamically stable and so resists this torque, so you must slow down or tolerate a wide turning radius.

To turn a fully castored cart, you apply physics - all you have to do is orient the cart so that is pointed sideways, then push hard. The key is then to maintain the cart pointing 90 degrees to the direction of travel throughout the turn, so that you can oppose centripetal force merely by pushing - no torque required. When the turn is complete, simply stop pushing. The cart will at this point still be oriented sideways of course, but you can correct this easily at your leisure.

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Shopping carts are always broken because the store doesn't give damn. For instance in my current city giant Auchan store has literally every single cart busted, unmaintained and completely rusted top to bottom. Similarly sized Carrefour has normal carts, mostly without any issues, just like Ikea and several other medium and small stores. Kaufland even has some fancy new carts, which not only work fine but have some m…

You can blame one middle manager. You can't blame a million middle managers. If all middle managers are doing something wrong, that's a problem of org design. The same is true across the board. One corrupt congressman? Bad apple. 100 of them in a government? Something is wrong with the way the system is set up. One bad teacher? Bad apple. Most teachers are bad? You're looking at some issue with hiring practices, trai…

Yeah, the issue is capitalism. It requires costs be minimized and profits go up. Why buy quality carts? Why pay employees good wages? Simple: you don't because every other business is doing the same thing.
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