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Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by simonw »

austhrow743 wrote: post #232
stranded22 wrote: post #216

Ok, so signed up to the free trial. I’ve now got perplexity pro, ChatGPT pro (expiring in a day or two), copilot pro (expiring end of the month) and Gemini advanced. And really, I don’t have much use for any of them over and above perplexity pro. Gemini advanced doesn’t produce images- and no voice replies either (on iOS at least - UK), so I don’t really see the point of having it past the trial. Copilot is ok, but I…

How are you using copilot if you're not coding?

Microsoft renamed their Bing AI tooling to Copilot recently, so Copilot doesn't necessarily mean GitHub Copilot now. Not just Google with the confusing names!

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by ErikBjare »

sergiotapia wrote: post #152
dobladov wrote: post #119

I would be willing to pay for an AI that it's not constantly worrying about my safety and ethics, it's very frustrating that even when I ask for tech related topics, Gemini it's holding information on the basis of actions that might cause harm to my devices.

Cloudflare very recently launched new models, including the excellent Openhermes. The context size sucks though. Default max (sequence) tokens (stream): 512 Default max (sequence) tokens: 256 https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers-ai/models/text-gen...

Those are just defaults, not the maximum possible context size.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by ajross »

LightMachine wrote: post #210
alphabetting wrote: post #83

Gemini Ultra seems better on logic than GPT4. Still messing around testing but here's a prompt Ultra nailed but GPT4 completely botched: Tabitha likes cookies but not cake. She likes mutton but not lamb, and she likes okra but not squash. Following the same rule, will she like cherries or pears https://i.imgur.com/KW6gQbc.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/OSHSvLp.png

If we want to test these beasts in logic, we should probably start using actual formalized logic, rather than English. In just one test, Gemini flopped hard, while GPT-4-Turbo nailed it. Here is my prompt: Below is a well-typed CoC function: foo : ∀(P: Nat -> *) ∀(s: ∀{n} -> ∀(x: (P n)) -> (P (n + 1))) ∀(z: (P 0)) (P 3) = λP λs λz (s (s (s z))) Below is an incomplete CoC function: foo : ∀(P: Nat -> *) ∀(f: ∀{n} -> ∀(…

> I think we have a winner...

It makes me sad that the complete and total lack of an objective way to measure these products means that the coming decades will be filled with this kind of hyper-specific gotcha test made in inappropriately confident internet posts.

Literally this could have been down to one extra book in someone's training corpus, or a tokenizer that failed to understand λ as a non-letter. But no matter, "we have a winner!". It's the computer science equivalent of declaring global warming a fraud because it snowed last night.

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Post by crazygringo »

translucyd wrote: post #151
jsty wrote: post #13

FYI for any Googlers - On the "Sorry, Gemini advanced isn't available for you" page, clicking "Learn More" gives you a (presumably internal) SSO sign-on (links to https://support.corp.google.com/googleone?ai_premium )

My God, this page is straight from the 90s! Nostalgic.

I'm actually shocked it has the modern Google logo, because everything else about it is a straight-up time capsule -- you're right!

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by sradman »

throwaway918274 wrote: post #213

can't even use it in Canada lol Google says it's because of "regulatory uncertainty", but I can use GPT just fine...Is it because OpenAI doesn't care and thinks they can navigate any "regulatory uncertainty" because they have Microsoft backing them? Wouldn't Google also have the same kind of resources?

Gemini works in Canada as of today. Bard was not available in Canada anytime I tried it previously. Maybe the "regulatory uncertainty" was recently resolved [1].

[1] https://g.co/gemini/share/9bde4caabf2c

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by crazygringo »

TechRemarker wrote: post #49

"Sorry, Gemini Advanced isn't available for you". Why are Google paying customers always the last to get everything. Always thought that should be reversed. Especially for one person users who use it for the customer domain and not running a fortune 500 company. So frustrating. Google Home is still a mess where if one if Google Work and the rest of the family is not won't work after all these years. So frustrating.

Copying my reply to a similar comment in this thread:

Workspace users always get features after free consumer accounts so that organization admins have time to evaluate them, update training materials, etc.

This is a feature, not a bug.

And of course there are lots of features that Workspace accounts get, that free accounts don't get at all. Like the timeline view in Sheets.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by [deleted] »

rvnx wrote: post #97
alphabetting wrote: post #83

Gemini Ultra seems better on logic than GPT4. Still messing around testing but here's a prompt Ultra nailed but GPT4 completely botched: Tabitha likes cookies but not cake. She likes mutton but not lamb, and she likes okra but not squash. Following the same rule, will she like cherries or pears https://i.imgur.com/KW6gQbc.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/OSHSvLp.png

Proof of Gemini cheating: https://i.imgur.com/eYJDFjS.png Answer about cherries falling from the sky... (there is no question or context beforehand, this is the first question of the chat)

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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by linsomniac »

yellow_lead wrote: post #2

> 2 TB of storage in Photos, Gmail & Drive for you and up to 5 other people Keep in mind your files may be accidentally deleted if Google doesn't cancel this product first [1][2]. [1] https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/27/google_drive_files_di... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38431743

The wording around the Gemini Ultra enable scares me: "Upgrade your Google One plan". I have a One family plan, does this upgrade remove the family part? What happens if I don't decide to keep Gemini and want to go back to my current plan, can I even do that? Google has kind of botched these sorts of upgrades in the past so I'm pretty reluctant to give it a try here.
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