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Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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Windows just keeps getting weirder. There's this regrettable dichotomy between (1) a rock solid OS core with great features like Hyper-V, PowerShell and exceptional back-compat, and (2) a crap, sluggish, inconsistent UI slapped on top, laden with ads, "Rewards" Points and tracking.

Powershit is a good thing? Here’s a genus idea, put an object oriented language in the terminal .

That's powershell?

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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Maybe that’s it. I untick all of the boxes during install and use a local account instead of a Microsoft account.

You had to fight the install process to get that local account, though.

It was like three clicks

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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I would genuinely hate to be an engineer working on the edge team. It feels like building a decent browser comes entirely secondary to moving the needle on marketing and growth targets. Not the only situation where it seems your Windows-running computer is basically held hostage by MBAs wanting to boost Bing’s numbers.

That's why microsoft only hires people who fail any ethics test you can imagine, and who pass any asshole test that you can give them.

I was going to push back on this, but on second thought I realized you are correct. Microsoft has a reputation, to put it mildly. A reputation that is well known to every software engineer on the planet, and indeed to many laymen.

Everyone who even applies there knows exactly what they are getting into. The application itself is an "ethics test", so to speak.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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I had to install Google Chrome on my (Mac) work laptop recently in order for the expo/react native debugger to work. Every time I open it I get a nag prompt to use it as the default (instead of Firefox) I tried editing the raw config files with some values stack overflow suggested would disable it but it hasn't worked. Not a huge deal because I don't need to open it too often, but still annoying that there isn't a "d…

That's how chrome got their market share from firefox and internet explore shoving prompts across all google based services: search, gmail maps etc. Using strong dominance of other domain to gain foothold on another domain and later dominate over it. Sound familiar?

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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If they were a non-biased actor they would commission a study across all systems, not just what's convenient for them and Google. They are more and more ridiculous by the day and deserve their tiny market share.

Why does it matter whether they're biased if they're correct? Plenty of short sellers are biased (massively so) yet that doesn't necessarily undermine their analysis.

because they pretend to fight for Internet Freedom while they never say anything to criticize Google. it undermines any message they put out.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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>hands down the best window management of any OS Huh? You can't even snap windows to screen edges.

You can use the keyboard for that.

It's the weekend so I can't confirm this with my work laptop but I'm pretty sure using arrow keys snaps windows in their predefined configurations (half the screen). And then the annoying UI asking what you want to do with the other half pops up. I could snap it to half the screen and then resize the window to it's original size but I shouldn't have to do that.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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Probably seems weird to you, but I've never got on with the Windows UI. There's too many things that steal focus. I've been XFCE for too many years now, but it doesn't change significantly that I find I have to invest time learning what's changed. There used to be a 'tile windows' since windows 2.0 or something like that, but it did just that, splatted the windows to take up all the space. One thing I like about X11…

> alt-dragging In case you hadn't come across it yet, there's a third-party piece of software called AltDrag [0] that lets you do it. It's kind of a must have for me whenever I have to use windows. Yes this should just be builtin [0] https://stefansundin.github.io/altdrag/

There is also https://github.com/RamonUnch/AltSnap which is a fork of AltDrag.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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That's why microsoft only hires people who fail any ethics test you can imagine, and who pass any asshole test that you can give them.

Xbox team has some good eggs at least. They didn’t need to make certain x360 titles forwards compatible, you can’t even get the disks new anymore, but they did it anyway.

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Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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Windows just keeps getting weirder. There's this regrettable dichotomy between (1) a rock solid OS core with great features like Hyper-V, PowerShell and exceptional back-compat, and (2) a crap, sluggish, inconsistent UI slapped on top, laden with ads, "Rewards" Points and tracking.

I don't know, Windows 11 came with many things I've wanted for years: - notepad with tabs - shell UI with tabs, VT-100 support and ability to replace the shell - Paint.net with AI - even Windbg has massively improved

What do you mean by "ability to replace the shell"?

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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Windows just keeps getting weirder. There's this regrettable dichotomy between (1) a rock solid OS core with great features like Hyper-V, PowerShell and exceptional back-compat, and (2) a crap, sluggish, inconsistent UI slapped on top, laden with ads, "Rewards" Points and tracking.

Powershit is a good thing? Here’s a genus idea, put an object oriented language in the terminal .

Yes, 100%. Old text-based shell scripting promotes security holes the size of Pacific ocean as numerous as stars in the Milky Way.
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