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Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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I'll keep that in mind.

Somewhere, a YouTube content creator scribbles Macbook Pro in concentrated sulphuric acid . (And I'd probably watch it).

NileRed for HN, paging NileRed for a video about non conductive liquids in USBC PD

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> The iPhone 12/13 Mini was substantially smaller, but few people bought it I knew before scrolling down that such a comment would be there. an iphone costs easily 5x-7x more than an android phone. Most people just want a phone that can do messages, calls, and has a gps. There haven't been any non-overpriced smaller smartphones lately.

For me personally, the cost isn't a factor. I'd gladly buy a small Android phone for up to $2000 if it would satisfy all my needs. Yes, I'm this desperate. And by the way, high-quality Android phones cost comparable to iPhones. Keep in mind that Apple is simply not interested in the budget segment.

Most people won't buy expensive stuff that is also very fragile.

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And don't forget the IR blaster, so you could control most of TVs. And IIRC it was the first Samsung phone with fingerprint reader. I miss that phone.

I disabled the fingerprint reader since they've decided it was a good idea to put it on the power button, so locking the screen also reads my fingerprint and unlocks the screen immediately.

Are you sure, that you are talking about the S5?

The S5 had a swipe fingerprint reader integrated into the home button.

https://www.samsung.com/levant/support/mobile-devices/galaxy...

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It's 2023 and finally can connect more then one... what is their justification for not being able to do this before.

That’s possible since like forever. It just depends on the graphic chip the Mac comes with

Been like that "forever" but also "depends on the graphic chip" meaning it wasn't universally supported. I've not come across a Windows machine with USB-C that can't support multiple displays using $20 hubs from Amazon (even cheap machines). Yet I had to carry multiple dongles for my MBP for multiple monitors.

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> Dumb question: wouldn't non-conductive liquids be harmless? Mostly yes, except for things like concentrated sulfuric acid which is highly corrosive but a bad conductor.

I guess I won't be liquid cooling my setup with concentrated sulfuric acid then

This is definitely the next "Cooling Adventures with Alex" video on Linus Tech Tips.

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How it works (on page 52): "The TPS25751 supports liquid detection by measuring the voltage level across the SBU pins of the Type-C connector. When a short occurs across the SBU pins to another Type-C pin(s), the TPS25751 takes action to protect the the Type-C port by disabling the power paths and notifies the embedded controller when applicable. Once liquid has been detected, the TPS25751 continuously monitors the S…

So it's a software visible GFCI circuit. Not super interesting, though sure, if the chip does it the OS should probably listen. The spin in the article about how this is all because of warranty denial revenue is pretty weird though.

Really nitpicky, but not really a GFCI.

The USB connector is detecting a short circuit--a direct connection between the two pins--and cutting power while the condition is present. If you wanted to put this in terms of household electrical, this would be closest to a self-resetting breaker. (And actually, most devices you have already _have_ this. There's usually a self-resetting fuse/PTC thermistor protecting your USB ports from over-current conditions. The only novel thing here seems to be that it's done in software.)

A GFCI, meanwhile, works by detecting in imbalance between the hot and neutral lines. The amount of current flowing through one should match the amount flowing through the other. If power is being drawn through the hot pin but not returning through the neutral, it has to be going _somewhere_ and it's not where we intended it to go. It cuts the power off rather than let it continue to flow out and find a path to ground through your kitchen sink/etc.

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Nothing in the article says Apple will void warranty on an iPhone if water has been detected in the charging port (water damage is a different thing entirely). This concerns Mac computers, which are not sold as waterproof.

I don't know, the first sentence says: > Apple’s limited warranty doesn’t cover damage caused by liquids, even for water-resistant products like the iPhone, Apple Watch, and some AirPods models. But the article is kind of all over the place. It then says Macs can now detect water in USB-C ports while having pictures in the article of iPhones showing messages that they detected liquids. They like to make the point tha…

(7) at the bottom of https://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/compare/

""" iPhone 7, iPhone 7 Plus, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, iPhone X, iPhone XS, iPhone XS Max, iPhone XR, iPhone SE (2nd generation), iPhone SE (3rd generation), iPhone 11 Pro, iPhone 11 Pro Max, iPhone 11, iPhone 12 Pro, iPhone 12 Pro Max, iPhone 12, iPhone 12 mini, iPhone 13 Pro, iPhone 13 Pro Max, iPhone 13, iPhone 13 mini, iPhone 14 Pro, iPhone 14 Pro Max, iPhone 14, iPhone 14 Plus, iPhone 15 Pro, iPhone 15 Pro Max, iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus are splash, water and dust resistant and were tested under controlled laboratory conditions; iPhone 12 Pro, iPhone 12 Pro Max, iPhone 12, iPhone 12 mini, iPhone 13 Pro, iPhone 13 Pro Max, iPhone 13, iPhone 13 mini, iPhone 14 Pro, iPhone 14 Pro Max, iPhone 14, iPhone 14 Plus, iPhone 15 Pro, iPhone 15 Pro Max, iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus have a rating of IP68 under IEC standard 60529 (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30 minutes); iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max have a rating of IP68 under IEC standard 60529 (maximum depth of 4 metres up to 30 minutes); iPhone XS, iPhone XS Max and iPhone 11 have a rating of IP68 under IEC standard 60529 (maximum depth of 2 metres up to 30 minutes); and iPhone 7, iPhone 7 Plus, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, iPhone X, iPhone XR, iPhone SE (2nd generation) and iPhone SE (3rd generation) have a rating of IP67 under IEC standard 60529 (maximum depth of 1 metre up to 30 minutes). Splash, water and dust resistance are not permanent conditions. Resistance might decrease as a result of normal wear. Do not attempt to charge a wet iPhone; refer to the user guide for cleaning and drying instructions.

Liquid damage not covered under warranty. """

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*water Pure not salt water or tap water, not contaminated toilet water where most phones seem to end up. And only for a certain time at a certain depth (pressure). And not pressurized just static. Maybe they should be named USB-Sea? /s

Have you seen the same Apple ads as me? Because they show it under rain, under the faucet, covered in Coke, etc. I agree it's resistant and it does what you say... But the way they advertise it....

Well, if water damage your iPhone then you are simply watering it wrong

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> The iPhone 12/13 Mini was substantially smaller, but few people bought it I knew before scrolling down that such a comment would be there. an iphone costs easily 5x-7x more than an android phone. Most people just want a phone that can do messages, calls, and has a gps. There haven't been any non-overpriced smaller smartphones lately.

For me personally, the cost isn't a factor. I'd gladly buy a small Android phone for up to $2000 if it would satisfy all my needs. Yes, I'm this desperate. And by the way, high-quality Android phones cost comparable to iPhones. Keep in mind that Apple is simply not interested in the budget segment.

A Galaxy S23 can be had currently for just over 600 Euro, which is substantially less than an iPhone Pro (almost half), despite also sporting a 120Hz OLED display, tele lens, etc.

You can get a lot of great/premium Android phones in the 500-800 bracket (Nothing Phone 2, S23, Pixel 8).

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