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New U.S. immigration rules spur more visa approvals for STEM workers

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Re: New U.S. immigration rules spur more visa approvals for STEM workers

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For those confused: Unfortunately, the US focuses on your origin (where you were born) rather than your nationality. alisahik is an Australian citizen, but was not born there. My guess is he was born in India, which has an absurdly long queue in the US immigration process. Really sucks.

That's a feature, not a bug. Otherwise you could find X country that is loose with citizenship requirements and get around the US' per-country limit.

Only a feature if you believe in the per country limit. The alternative is to just score everyone based on point based system and admit the highest scorers regardless of national origin.

Re: New U.S. immigration rules spur more visa approvals for STEM workers

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What an idiotic system! Any sane policy would just put a max number of annual visas or total active visa holders and choose the best value applicants based on a scoring system, but no we can't have nice things.

Ensuring diversity of immigration sounds like an important criteria to keep in mind.

Really?

1. Is that why they give special virtually uncapped visa classes to Australia, Singapore, Canada and Chile while everyone else has to deal with h1B?

2. Do you think there are country based limits when admitting people through the southern border or granting refugee status?

Re: New U.S. immigration rules spur more visa approvals for STEM workers

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Having worked in the EU and the US, here are some differences that I think are relevant for global employers: - The hiring pool is much smaller than in the US, one reason is probably demographics and lack of skilled immigration. This makes it less attractive to hire/grow there. - Labor regulation is much more strict. It's legally hard and expensive to lay off workers in Germany, for example. - Taxes are much higher t…

>Labor regulation is much more strict. It's legally hard and expensive to lay off workers in Germany, for example. Is a few months notice [0] too much to ask? You can fire anyone you want, you're just going to wait a little bit or pay their remaining salary if you want them gone immediately. There is nothing legally hard about it. The hardest part is probably that you have to physically mail the layoff notice, but no…

There's much more to this than you cite. There's Betriebsrat and Sozialplan etc. I'm not at all saying any of this is bad, but it does play an important role when companies make decisions about where to put their engineering centers.

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>“You don’t have any accomplishments,” the lawyer told him. “You don’t have a patent, or even a product.” That scolding spurred Sanjay to make a list of what he needed to do to achieve his goal of staying permanently. He improved the technology his AI-based firm was developing, expanded its customer base, and filed for a U.S. patent, which was awarded earlier this year. In May those efforts paid off, allowing him to…

I would be surprised if it didn't, as other parts of the immigration system also warp post graduate education. EB-2 provides a much easier immigration route than EB-3, and EB-1 is easier still: Arguably the only road you can call easy if you come from countries that hit the per-country cap. The most reliable way to EB-2 is post graduate education. For EB-1, as listed here, will be patents and publications after a Ph.…

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Re: New U.S. immigration rules spur more visa approvals for STEM workers

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> I suppose the counterargument is that the US educational system is generally so poor that it's not generating enough people with the necessary technical capabilities

But what if it's not a policy/ed system issue but a culture/society/values choice? As a teen today, why go to college when I can try my hand at drop-shipping/digital marketing/content creation/ChatGPT startup/whatever guru du jour's shilling today

Re: New U.S. immigration rules spur more visa approvals for STEM workers

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It's not. It's just a WIN WIN for the company and the individual. But this is what the US is encouraging with its immigration policy so you reap what you sow.

Another thing could be that you come collecting US degrees is a WIN for US. Maybe degrees in Australia or your birth country weren't good enough for you (or you weren't good enough for them). Either way that US was able to have you for education and jobs for many years after that is win in my book.

Imagine the US parents paying $$ to get their kids into an elite kindergarten in the hopes of some day sending their kid to an Ivy League.... Only to have their spot taken by some shmuck from Australia who has never previously set foot in the US get a free ride for a $200k education.... you're going to convince them that its a WIN for America!

Re: New U.S. immigration rules spur more visa approvals for STEM workers

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You don't have to look far, Canada has already implemented a point based system for granting permanent residence to skilled workers. It assigns scores to applicants based on education, skills, employment offer, language speaking ability, etc. I believe it can be a good starting point for a more objective selection criteria than the current system which is more based on luck. https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refug…

Isn't Canada full of foreign PhDs driving taxis because they qualify for permanent residence on points but then can't get jobs because employers want "Canadian work experience"? Canada also has a major housing crisis due to not building enough housing for population growth (which is entirely immigration, Canada's population would shrink without it). Doesn't seem their system works very well in practice. At least the…

> Isn't Canada full of foreign PhDs driving taxis because they qualify for permanent residence on points but then can't get jobs because employers want "Canadian work experience"?

Canadian here. Nope.

Re: New U.S. immigration rules spur more visa approvals for STEM workers

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How is it a win for the United States if American companies are employing less people in the country, and instead are paying remote workers who pay taxes elsewhere?

The US doesn’t understand the social burden of integrating an immigrant, and the resulting social conflict. Meanwhile, the prospective immigrant gets to stay in their homeland (most don’t really want to leave, money aside). If tax dollars are the issue, just tax the company.

What kinda immigrant are you talking about? The immigrant they are housing in NYC hotels who arrived with 3 kids from Venezuela?

Or the software engineer with a US college degree paying $>50k / year in income taxes to state and federal government?

Because you know that they are only restricting the latter type of immigrant.

Re: New U.S. immigration rules spur more visa approvals for STEM workers

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Ensuring diversity of immigration sounds like an important criteria to keep in mind.

Really? 1. Is that why they give special virtually uncapped visa classes to Australia, Singapore, Canada and Chile while everyone else has to deal with h1B? 2. Do you think there are country based limits when admitting people through the southern border or granting refugee status?

I have no idea what these have to do with the matter being discussed here. We're talking about legal immigration and cap applied to visa/green card.

What is "virtually uncapped"? Do you have a source explaining how Australia, Singapore, Canada and Chile are treated differently? And as an FYI, I see no problem with Canada having a special regime.

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