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Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims

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sgjohnson wrote: post #238
CommanderData wrote: post #211

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https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/07/1095322

https://www.humanium.org/en/south-sudan/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-57446154

https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/01/1083102

https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/06/1137237

https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/more-half-ukraines-chi...

etc. etc. etc. etc.

15 seconds of internet for the first things that entered my mind. It's really not that hard.

The whole business with Ukrainian children being abducted was major news for ages.

Organisations such as UNICEF and War Child exist explicitly for children.

But yeah ... no one cares about children except in Gaza...

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Post by ignoramous »

sgift wrote: post #231
k1m wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chomsky: 'if “they” do it, it’s terrorism; if “we” do it, it’s counterterrorism. That’s a historical universal.'

I don't remember the incident where Israel killed 1200 Palestinians on a music festival with unmarked troops. I'm sure Chomsky would find some justification for that too, but that's why the only thing I care about he did is the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chomsky_hierarchy - from there it's all been downhill, especially in the last few years. Before that it was at least from time to time worth thinking about.

> I don't remember the incident where Israel killed 1200 Palestinians on a music festival with unmarked troops.

Oh yes, that's terrorism.

Since we're trading Wikipedia links; I must say some PR, a uniform, and US-backing must help a tonne: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine

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Post by dlubarov »

sudosysgen wrote: post #184
dlubarov wrote: post #121

Are you saying that changes on Israel's part could cause Hamas to stop their aggression? That seems very unlikely - Hamas doesn't even pretend to be open to peaceful coexistence with Israel. Their best offer was a 10-year ceasefire in exchange for 1967 borders. Or that it could lead to Gazans overthrowing Hamas? It's possible, but it would take a violent rebellion since Hamas doesn't hold elections, and realistically…

This is greatly complicated by the fact that Israel materially supported Hamas and saw it as useful. Ultimately Israelis don't have to suffer serious attacks from Hamas. Hamas doesn't have that power, militarily - only gross incompetence from the IDF allows that kind of attack. On the other hand, Israel is not facing good geopolitical headwinds. As Yemen demonstrated, they are extremely vulnerable to a blockade. One…

I agree Israel ought to be able to prevent similar ground invasions, but what about rockets?

The Iron Dome has been relatively effective so far, but the technological gap won't last forever. Hamas has already acquired rockets like the Fajr-5, despite the blockade. Once they start using guidance systems, the destruction will be much greater, and 90% interception rate won't be good enough.

Even if Israel could limit the damage in the long term, it doesn't seem politically viable to just tolerate repeated attacks with no response. So I think it's inevitable that Israel will have to remove Hamas from power, no matter the geopolitical cost.

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Post by Sporktacular »

ipaddr wrote: post #221
CommanderData wrote: post #211

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"It's already cost 7,000+ children's lives"

Please. They aren't bombing hostage locations to free hostages. The effort to eliminate Hamas has cost 7000+ children lives. That number won't stop growing when hostages are freed.

Can we stop bringing up the 200 hostages in response to the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians? It's a rounding error by comparison and a sad reminder that in 2023, to some, some lives are worth 100 times more than others.

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Post by lossolo »

paulmd wrote: post #257
sgift wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't remember the incident where Israel killed 1200 Palestinians on a music festival with unmarked troops. I'm sure Chomsky would find some justification for that too, but that's why the only thing I care about he did is the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chomsky_hierarchy - from there it's all been downhill, especially in the last few years. Before that it was at least from time to time worth thinking about.

that’s the cool part about being the hegemon: you get to wear uniforms while doing your atrocities, and you have tanks and planes and ambassadors wielding real power at the UN to prevent consequences. Just like the US killing hundreds of thousands of people in the firebombing campaigns of Japan was probably a war-crime. We wore uniforms while doing it. What are you gonna do about it? You already lost the war, not lik…

And bombing of Dresden[1] and dropping nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. All of that would be considered war crimes using the law that was created after world war II but unfortunately not before:

> The Hague Conventions, addressing the codes of wartime conduct on land and at sea, were adopted before the rise of air power. Despite repeated diplomatic attempts to update international humanitarian law to include aerial warfare, it was not updated before the outbreak of World War II.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden

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Post by meticulous_gal »

riku_iki wrote: post #137
za3faran wrote: post #131

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Israel deliberately cut off power, water, and all crossings into Gaza for delivering food and aid. Even worse than what Russia did to the power plants. Literal collective punishment, another war crime to add to their list.

Israel cut power and water they provided before to the territory which attacked them. Sounds like many countries did such thing in the past.

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